Why if you are married do ya want to go to a nudie bar

[Flip McWho]

Beg to differ.

I was referring to in general, like a woman on the street. At a strip club you have a point.

That's because a cat is generally assumed not to have the capacity for moral judgement.

It is generally assumed that men do.

Aye, I wasn't the one using the analogy.

First you say that the Christian teaching about self-control is crap. Then you say that we should learn to control ourselves.

Nope I didn't. I said the particular christian message that looking at a chick=lust in the heart=adultery is crap.
I suppose I just see a difference between thinking something and doing something. Of course thinking something can lead to doing that something, but generally thats where self control comes in.

I'd also like to note that I watch a fair bit of TBN (trinity broadcasting network) so when I refer to christian its generally TBN to which I'm referring too.

[Jon Miller]

I don't think admiring a girls look smeans you want to have sex with her.

JM

[Flip McWho]

I'd agree with that, theres a bit of a difference between admiring some chick who looks good and eye ****ing her.

[Cort Haus]

Dancing and sexuality can be appreciated on an aesthetic level as well as a lustful one. The borderline can be blurred, but some women (hetro) can enjoy looking at women too.

[Cort Haus]

Oh, and are these places really called 'nudie bars' by people over the age of about thirteen, or is everyone just messing about here?

[Arrian]

I've never liked nudie bars, whether single or married. It's not a moral issue at all.

I've been to several, however, because of bachelor parties for friends. I go, I hand over money to women who don't give a flying **** about me or my buddy, and in exchange my buddy gets a lap dance. Meh. Thankfully, all my friends but one are married off now, and the one remaining doesn't want to go to a strip joint.

-Arrian

[loinburger]

I'm friends with a married couple who regularly watch porn, sometimes together and sometimes not. It's cheaper than a nudie bar (usually they TiVo the Playboy channel, but every now and then they'll buy a DVD, e.g., that Pirate Porn DVD that won a crapload of porn awards). As to the "why" -- it's just a sex / masturbatory aid, e.g., "I'll pretend that I'm having sex with the person on the TV instead of with you." (I kid -- they mostly watch Naughty Amateur Home Videos, meaning that the people on the TV are generally less attractive than the people not on the TV.)

I've had mixed luck with nudie bars -- sometimes they provide a relaxed atmosphere to drink and watch naked women, but sometimes the strippers are so pushy that they ruin the mood. ("Give me money and I'll give you a lap dance." "Give me money and I'll give the groom-to-be a lap dance." "Give me money and I'll pour booze on myself and let you drink the booze." "Give me money so that I'll just stop bothering you for five minutes.")

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
Dancing and sexuality can be appreciated on an aesthetic level as well as a lustful one. The borderline can be blurred, but some women (hetro) can enjoy looking at women too.

And some hetero guys can enjoy looks at guys as well.

JM

[Flubber]

I typically don't go to nudie bars but I have been there on stags or whatnot. I find it doesn't do much for me. I find a REAL flirtatious glance from a fully clothed woman is more arousing than all of the fake come-ons and simulated masturbation on a stripper stage

It just always seemed so cheap and tawdry and not in any fun way

[Elok]

Originally posted by loinburger
e.g., that Pirate Porn DVD that won a crapload of porn awards)

Are you talking about pirated porn, or is there actually a porno of guys dressed in bandanas and eye-patches talking about "booty," or bar-wenches using pegleg dildos or something? That must be so hysterical! Do they call a three-way a "Spanish doubloon" or something?

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
I agree, I wouldn't like my girlfreind (if I were to have one) wanting to have sex with other guys.

I wouldn't want my girlfriend (when I'll finally find a new one) NOT wanting to have sex with anybody else.

I'd wonder if she's really human if she didn't, at least after the first months of the relationship.

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Elok
Are you talking about pirated porn, or is there actually a porno of guys dressed in bandanas and eye-patches talking about "booty," or bar-wenches using pegleg dildos or something? That must be so hysterical! Do they call a three-way a "Spanish doubloon" or something?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_(Porn_Film)

Be careful, the link has some spoilers in it.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


Yeah, I don't like the idea of watching porn with other people.

I, at least, don't get off or anything at a stripclub.

JM

I didn't get off by looking at other men. .

A strip club is completely different than looking at porn with other men. There's an actual human being touching you.

That being said, I never liked watching porn with other men. They did this in the navy all the time. I can maybe see watching a little bit, then do a quick trip to the rack. But some of those guys would watch an entire movie. I could never see the point of watching an entire porn movie. Even when I'm alone. I guess I have low attentions spam. And I always fast forward through the boring parts as well.

[Dis]

Originally posted by MRT144


from everything Ive heard about strip clubs most of them dont let you grope, prod, noggle the stripper. male strippers are free adn encouraged to "t bag" the woman

In Vegas we used to allow very heavy touching. But they are going away with that. We are no longer sin city anymore.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
A male stripper is rather annoying!! I mena in most cases they bounce their stuff in ur face and sure they encourage the crowd, but if i wanted to see bouncing balls id go to a basket ball game

I would agree. I always wondered why women would find that sort of thing entertaining.