That's an interesting table but it only deals with a few farm goods and not things which California really leaders the way in such as fruits, nuts, vegitables, wine, and chickens. I'd love to see a graph of the total value (in US$) of agricultural output by state.
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That's an interesting table but it only deals with a few farm goods and not things which California really leaders the way in such as fruits, nuts, vegitables, wine, and chickens. I'd love to see a graph of the total value (in US$) of agricultural output by state.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Which doesn't quite stop them from accepting farm subsidies, I presume?
How many Western states do you think get large amounts of farm subsidies? It's not like Colorado, Utah or Nevada are chock full of corn fields...
Not to mention the huge amounts of subsidized grazing on Federal lands, below market lumber harvesting subsidies in National Forest lands (before you ***** about semantics, US Forest Service is part of the Dept. of Agriculture), non-competive mineral rights, seizure of Indian lands (Western Shoshone lands transferred at 1872 prices between BIA and BLM to give below-market mineral rights to Homestake Mining), tax breaks for oil and gas exploration, and production, etc. Oh yeah, and let's not forget cheap below-market power from Federal dams (WAPA, anybody), Federal funds for water projects and non-market based allocations of water from Federally controlled waterways.
In other words, the red state hypocrites out west are feeding at the welfare trough like everyone else they whine about, and perfectly willing to take any big-government largesse while talking out the other sides of their mouths.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
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Originally posted by Colonâ„¢
But then again, is Cafilonria really part of the West?When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
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In other words, the red state hypocrites out west are feeding at the welfare trough like everyone else they whine about, and perfectly willing to take any big-government largesse while talking out the other sides of their mouths.
I totally agree with you, but I just had to take the piss out of Colon when he was stupid enough to use farm subsidies as his example instead of things like the lumber subsidies, mineral rights and other more relevant issues you mentioned...KH FOR OWNER!
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everyone who takes subsidies is usually a hypocrite because they also dont want the government in their lives"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
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One thing I did like about Drake's graph and that is it shows Texas is the France of America. In the EU France is known as the ag-subsidy consuming glutton where as in the US Texas is clearly the king of getting subsidies for its agricultural goods.
Who would have thought that the "free market republicans" of Texas who championed the phrase "it's your money, not the government's" are actually subsidy gluttons sucking at not one but both tits of the government.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Colonâ„¢
But then again, is Cafilonria really part of the West?Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Amount of Subsidies received (1995-2004)
Over $4.2 billion over 10 years
$1.84 - $4.2 billion over 10 years
$600 million - $1.84 billion over 10 years
$100 - $600 million over 10 years
Under $100 million over 10 years
Value of Agricultural Products Sold (2002)
Over $5.5 billion annually
$3.9 - $5 billion annually
$2.3 - $3.9 billion annually
$600 million - $2.3 billion annually
Under $600 million annually
Source: USDA, Census of Agriculture."I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
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One thing I did like about Drake's graph and that is it shows Texas is the France of America. In the EU France is known as the ag-subsidy consuming glutton where as in the US Texas is clearly the king of getting subsidies for its agricultural goods.
Has your brain deteriorated so far now that you can't even read a basic graph? Texas isn't very high on the list of states in terms of subsidies per acre under cultivation...
edit: And to MRT for pwning Colon even further...KH FOR OWNER!
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