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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I make a general statement about ideological leanings of the West, yet your attempted refutation rests on a comparison of pork spending between the South and the North?
Because you said that Republicans fear "big" government. I say such fear among Republicans is superficial or hypocritical, because in the past, statistics have shown that Southern red states have received more money from "big" government than many Northern blue states.
We're afraid of big government -- oh, but if you're going to hand out money to us, we can live with big government then.
Not to mention, that historically, and continuing today, this rhetoric of "states' rights" has, more often than not, been used to deny minority groups of civil rights. So the red states' notion of "states' rights" is not as noble as it may appear on the surface.
A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
Because you said that Republicans fear "big" government.
Where did I say that?
Not to mention, that historically, and continuing today, this rhetoric of "states' rights" has, more often than not, been used to deny minority groups of civil rights. So the red states' notion of "states' rights" is not as noble as it may appear on the surface.
What are you going on about? States rights has absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand...
Yeah, they removed the money from the bridge project and put it into a general transportation fund for Alaska
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Has your brain deteriorated so far now that you can't even read a basic graph? Texas isn't very high on the list of states in terms of subsidies per acre under cultivation...
Your brain is the one off kilter as is usual. I'm talking about highest in total amount of dollars in subsidies recieved. That is generally what is meant when someone says so & so recieves the most in subsidies.
I'm talking about highest in total amount of dollars in subsidies recieved. That is generally what is meant when someone says so & so recieves the most in subsidies.
So you think the biggest agricultural state in the Union is greedy because it gets the most subsidies, even though its average per acre is far from the highest?
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in california, farmers pay $15 per acre foot of water, while urban users pay $100 per acre foot. is that included as part of subsidies anywhere?
in washington and oregon, I think that many farmers get water for free.
"Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini
yeah, it actually looks like the west (Baring the coast) is what is Republican
True. Makes sense, given that Western individualism and mistrust of government doesn't seem to jibe well with much of what the Democratic party stands for.
It's interesting how you're trying to deny what you have said.
Words such as "mistrust of government" certainly means fear of "big government," which brings us back to why I brought up fear of big government that red states have -- I mentioned the Southern red states because of their higher levels of receiving federal government subsidies, but this does include the Western red states as well, as far as fear of big government is concerned . . . . . . .
which is what you brought up, in the first place. Hence, my point in describing the hypocrisy of red states that receive higher government subisides, yet professing to have a "mistrust of government." Hence, also, my point in another example of red state hypocrisy; using the cloak of states' rights in the past, and in the present, as merely an evil means to deny minority groups their civil rights.
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A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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