The NEW Red vs. Blue US map.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
edit: And to MRT for pwning Colon even further...

Colon wasn't the one pwned here

[Colonâ„¢]

Of course not, but that won't make him stop insisting less agriculture is carried out in Nevada than in Iowa.

[Drake Tungsten]

In Colon's defense, he seems about as knowledgable about the US as most other Europeans...

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

yeah, it actually looks like the west (Baring the coast) is what is Republican

True. Makes sense, given that Western individualism and mistrust of government doesn't seem to jibe well with much of what the Democratic party stands for.

This is hypocritical bull****. The Republican states in the South, for example, have been known to receive more pork spending and subsidization programs than Democratic states in the North.

[Drake Tungsten]

I make a general statement about ideological leanings of the West, yet your attempted refutation rests on a comparison of pork spending between the South and the North?

[Nubclear]

You implied that the Democrats are big-government and collectivist.
However, he says that the South (Where the Democrats tend to do poorly) hardly upholds the values of "individualism" and "mistrust of government" (Especially if they are taking government handouts!), which (if directed toward your implication of about democrats) is a proper refutation.

[MRT144]

in summary everyone takes pork but democrats dont lie about enjoying it and hold it as a something they fight against.

i think lying plus wasteful is worse than simply wasteful

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Colonâ„¢
Of course not, but that won't make him stop insisting less agriculture is carried out in Nevada than in Iowa.

What?

[Drake Tungsten]

You implied that the Democrats are big-government and collectivist.

What does that have to do with pork? You can be a proponent of big-government and collectivism while opposing pork-barrel spending...

However, he says that the South (Where the Democrats tend to do poorly) hardly upholds the values of "individualism" and "mistrust of government"

I never claimed they did.

in summary everyone takes pork but democrats dont lie about enjoying it and hold it as a something they fight against.

Pretty much.

[Colonâ„¢]

I'll just basket in the glory of knowing I pwned one of poly's greatest trolls and of launching a vigorous, yet utterly pointless debate.

[notyoueither]

Are you drunk?

[Colonâ„¢]

Perhaps I ought to mention the irrigation schemes as well.

[Impaler[WrG]]

MRT114: Your post earlier seems like the color key block of a Graph but wares the graph?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by MrFun
The Republican states in the South, for example, have been known to receive more pork spending and subsidization programs than Democratic states in the North.

I'd defy you to find any Republican delegation anywhere in the country as adept at pork spending as Robert Byrd.

[Drake Tungsten]

I'll just basket in the glory of knowing I pwned one of poly's greatest trolls and of launching a vigorous, yet utterly pointless debate.

1. "Bask in the glory"...

2. I'm not Alexander's Horse.

3. It was indeed a good threadjack.