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  • #226
    This did end up being a rather successful troll, didn't it?

    Given it's transparency, I figure it must've been the timing. Just enough time had passed since the OTF's last religion v. atheism thread.

    -Arrian
    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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    • #227
      Originally posted by Kidicious


      So if a religion changes your heart it is true?
      Look at Christianities claims.

      If it succeeds in it's claims, doesn't that suggest truth?

      JM
      Jon Miller-
      I AM.CANADIAN
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      • #228
        Originally posted by Spec
        And how do you test and idea which is not a fact? Like an invention per say, it's an idea, but touchable, seeable and so on....

        Spec.
        You aren't very intellectually curious, are you?

        I am sure Lorizael could give you a thousand ways to test an idea.

        JM
        Jon Miller-
        I AM.CANADIAN
        GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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        • #229
          No.

          Auto-suggestion, adaptation to an idea, that's what it proves. It does not prove its true.

          Spec.
          -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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          • #230
            Originally posted by Jon Miller


            You aren't very intellectually curious, are you?
            I am very very intellectually curious, I just dont beleive in something that cant be proven. And god cannot be proven.

            I'm a Thomas if you know what that means.

            Spec.
            -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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            • #231
              Originally posted by Spec
              I am very very intellectually curious, I just dont beleive in something that cant be proven.
              Do you believe in dinosaurs?
              THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
              AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
              AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
              DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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              • #232
                Originally posted by Spec


                I am very very intellectually curious, I just dont beleive in something that cant be proven. And god cannot be proven.

                I'm a Thomas if you know what that means.

                Spec.
                As I have said, I don't think there is any proof or disproof of God. And I haven't changed my position in the last 10 posts.

                You aren't understanding me.

                Jon Miller
                Jon Miller-
                I AM.CANADIAN
                GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                • #233
                  Very few things can be proven.
                  ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                  ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                  • #234
                    Originally posted by Elok
                    I laughed it off at the time, but honestly, why are we obligated to know truth? Obligated by/to who, or what? If our knowledge of the truth does not affect our lives, how is even the most ultimate understanding different from the most idiotic movie trivia?
                    Obligation is probably the wrong word for me. I have very nihilistic tendencies, and in the end, if I were to live the rest of my life as a wandering beggar or sociopathic serial killer, it would be no more or less moral than what I am currently doing from my perspective.

                    I am attempting to figure out the truth to see if there are any ultimate moral standards by which I should live my life, or by which the universe should operate. I won't claim that the actions I undertake to effect this goal are 'good' or 'right'; they're just the only things I can think of that might, in the long run, allow me to do something meaningful.
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                    "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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                    • #235
                      Originally posted by Jon Miller
                      As I have said, I don't think there is any proof or disproof of God. And I haven't changed my position in the last 10 posts.

                      You aren't understanding me.

                      Jon Miller
                      (Whenever Spec enters a religious thread, he just rants uselessly about how God doesn't exist and it's stupid to think so. Just pretend he's not on our side.)
                      Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
                      "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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                      • #236
                        Originally posted by Lorizael
                        (Whenever Spec enters a religious thread, he just rants uselessly about how God doesn't exist and it's stupid to think so. Just pretend he's not on our side.)
                        (He's like Dawkins that way)
                        THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                        AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                        AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                        DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                        • #237
                          Originally posted by Ramo
                          **** dude, why do you care so much? Religion can be comforting to some people. As long as they don't have any harmful beliefs as a corollary, why does it matter?

                          I agree. Red letter day.

                          As for it being a missionary to convert to atheism I think the Jesuit colleges actually teach half their alternative religion course with an aim to discredit the existance of God and half of their religion course to endorse the existance of God. The final term paper taking either position and defending appropriately.

                          Seems if the catholics are willing to enter into that level of debate expecting that the logical arguments will only strengthen one's faith how dangerous can the likes of a Whaleboy book recommendation be?
                          "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                          • #238
                            Originally posted by LordShiva


                            Do you believe in dinosaurs?
                            I do, we found actual bones you know.

                            Spec.
                            -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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                            • #239
                              Originally posted by Lorizael


                              (Whenever Spec enters a religious thread, he just rants uselessly about how God doesn't exist and it's stupid to think so. Just pretend he's not on our side.)
                              If you beleive in god, then no, I'm not on your side.

                              Spec.
                              -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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                              • #240
                                Originally posted by LordShiva


                                (He's like Dawkins that way)
                                Richard Dawkins?

                                Spec.
                                -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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