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Originally posted by DanS
I note that Saturday's ND-Michigan game is for all the marbles: Best all-time winning percentage in college football.
Michigan is 851-280-36 (.7446) in 127 years of play
Notre Dame is 813-266-42 (.7440) in 118 years of play
Big Time Game!!!
I will be utterly shocked if the Wolverines win this game. I don't think the Irish are that much better at all, it's just that I've been completely conditioned by the last 6 seasons to expect Michigan to lose."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
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I've got a total mancrush on Weis at the present time, so it's tough to be unbiased. The man is Mr. Details and demands the same from the whole program, which likely will earn ND a couple more wins a year. He's outcoached everybody except the sweatervest guy and the MSU guy so far. It's as if the era of Ara is back (.836 winning percentage). I expect him to have a heart attack tomorrow, on the other hand...I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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My picks...
TCU over Texas Tech, in the Both Top-25 Teams But Who Really Cares Bowl.
Oklahoma over Oregon, in the Holiday Bowl Rematch/See How Overrated The Pac-10 Is Bowl.
Miami over Louisville in the If We Lose This, the Coach is Toast Bowl.
Florida over TN in the Offense Wins Games Bowl.
USC by 3 TDs over Nebraska, in the If We Had Bush, We Would Still Be Huge Bowl.
Notre Dame by full 7 over Michigan, in the Nothing's Changed Since Last Year, Except the Location Bowl.
And, finally,
LSU over Auburn, in the Both Are Overrated Bowl.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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It's tough to be a Michigan fan right now, what with a resurgent ND, and OSU being good. For all the talent we recruit, Carr has them underperforming. Not only is there the opening-road-game loss streak, but the recently poor records against ND & OSU.
Last year we were plagued by injuries, so I hope we stay healthy this year and see how we do.
I think Carr runs a good program, but isn't a really good game coach. BTW I enjoyed seeing him "on notice" in the other thread.
GO BLUE!Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin
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Uh oh. This sounds bad for USC. They need to clean things up, so that we can continue the rivalry unhindered.
Report: Bush, family received $100,000 in benefits
ESPN.com news services
Reggie Bush and his family "appear" to have received more than $100,000 in financial benefits from marketing agents while Bush played at USC, according to a report posted Thursday night on Yahoo! Sports.
The Web site reported that the benefits, which could lead the NCAA to retroactively declare Bush ineligible and level sanctions against the Trojans, were supplied by two groups that were attempting to sign Bush as a client. Bush also could be stripped of his Heisman Trophy.
Bush, who now plays for the New Orleans Saints, declined to comment when reached by Yahoo! Sports.
Mike Ornstein, Bush's marketing agent who is alleged to have paid financial benefits, denied wrongdoing, telling Yahoo! that accusations of cash payments are lies.
The report was based on an eight-month investigation by Yahoo! Sports, citing documents and interviews with on-the-record sources close to the situation. It lists several instances in which Bush and his family appear to have received financial benefits, including:
• Suits for Bush's stepfather and brother to wear during the Dec. 10, 2005, Heisman ceremony in New York, a makeover for his mother for the event and limousine transportation -- all paid for by Ornstein.
• Two hotel stays by Bush, one in Las Vegas and another in San Diego, in March 2005. In both instances, the rooms were paid for by Michael Michaels, a marketing agency investor who wanted to represent the football star.
• $13,000 from Michaels' fledgling firm, New Era Sports & Entertainment, to purchase and modify a car for Bush.
• $595.20 in round-trip airfare from San Diego to Oakland in November 2005 for Bush's stepfather, LaMar Griffin, his mother, Denise Griffin and younger brother to attend the USC-California game at Berkeley. The charges were put on a credit card belonging to Jamie Fritz, one of Ornstein's employees.
"Reggie Bush never received an extra benefit from Mike Ornstein other than what he was allowed to get from the NCAA when he worked with us," Ornstein told Yahoo!
Bush was an intern at Ornstein's marketing company in the summer of 2005.
Ornstein told the Web site that he believed the funds given to Bush's family by Fitz were a loan that was repaid. He also told Yahoo! he had "no idea" if such a loan would violate NCAA rules.
NCAA rules state that players and their families may not receive loans or benefits from agents.
Phone messages left by The Associated Press for Bush's attorney, David Cornwell, and Ornstein were not immediately returned late Thursday.
Speculation over whether Bush and his family received money arose earlier this year in reports that his mother and stepfather didn't pay $54,000 in rent during the year they lived in a house owned by Michaels, who later said the family promised to repay him once Bush went pro.
The NCAA and Pacific-10 Conference are investigating whether any rules were broken when Bush's family lived in the home. Cornwell also said earlier this summer that FBI agents interviewed him about "potential federal crimes" by phone in June. The FBI would neither confirm nor deny whether a federal investigation was ongoing.
If allegations of improper financial benefits prove true, many of Reggie Bush's USC achievements could be erased.
The NFL players union also is investigating the rent payments.
In a statement released by USC counsel Kelly Bendell, the school said it is cooperating with the probe but "cannot comment on any matter that is the subject of an ongoing NCAA and Pac-10 investigation."
Saints spokesman Greg Bensel told the AP the team would not comment on matters involving Bush when he was in college.
"It doesn't involve the Saints," he said.
The allegations would have no effect on Bush's professional football career, a person within the NFL with knowledge of Bush's standing in the league told the AP. The source asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the situation.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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The original Yahoo! Sports story -- under the headline "Cash and Carry" -- is very detailed. I would not wish sanctions on the USC football team, but I'm astounded that the football program wouldn't prepare their boys to fend this stuff off. I know that Notre Dame spends a lot of time on this, as well as a lot of time teaching the players how to deal with the media and others outside the program, so I assumed that every elite program does.
Last edited by DanS; September 15, 2006, 11:45.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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Gee...I guess USC has been on top long enough and the media is wanting a change...
BTW, DanS...Vols over Florida in the UT Defense is better than they thought bowl."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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I don't know why, but I'm pretty surprised by the USC story. It seemed that Carroll was running a relatively clean program."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
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Well, you know my opinion about this... Pay the players their market value. ND wouldn't fare well under this system (because the offer of a solid college education would have less attraction), but it's the right thing to do.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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By the way, I note that the ND - Michigan line went from 7 points to 4.5 points.
All the hallmarks of a big game!I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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Originally posted by Guynemer
I don't know why, but I'm pretty surprised by the USC story. It seemed that Carroll was running a relatively clean program.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Carroll cannot control his players willfully breaking NCAA rules and actively covering it up. Bush's violations are only coming to light because he double crossed his "wanna be" agents. They can't touch Bush so they will try an exact their revenge on USC. However, Bush could care less about USC. Anyway, I think USC will be banned from post season play and will have scholarships taken away. The only question is whether it will take effect this season or next.
BTW - things aren't going so well at the other USC either.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man
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