Arnold must decide if killer is executed

[Dis]

So I don't get it. Because the system is supposedly racist, black men can't get the death penalty anymore? I don't think there's any doubt about this man's guilty verdict.

[asleepathewheel]

Exactly, is it possible for any black man to be put to death? that's why I feel that crying racism in this case is really a cop out. Believing that the dp is immoral should be able to stand on its own without bringing up faulty arguments.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Dis
So I don't get it. Because the system is supposedly racist, black men can't get the death penalty anymore? I don't think there's any doubt about this man's guilty verdict.

Don't you get it Dis?

He's innocent because the system is RACIST!

Even though white people were executed twice as much as black people the last two years.

[MOBIUS]

Of course I still think Tookie should die - talk about a waste of resources keeping him alive all this time...

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel
Exactly, is it possible for any black man to be put to death? that's why I feel that crying racism in this case is really a cop out. Believing that the dp is immoral should be able to stand on its own without bringing up faulty arguments.

Whether it's immoral or not is besides the particular point.

Yes it is immoral, but it's also racist.

Regarding the specifics of this case, I never claimed racism was in play, neither you nor I have the specifics.

What we do have is proven historical track record of the death penalty being racist, and it certainly stacks the odds unfairly against blacks. That's not an opinion, that's pretty much fact.

I don't believe in it because it's immoral. On top of that, the application of it is unfairly done, the room for error too high, so it should be withdrawn on practical purposes as well.

Maybe in a perfect world we can flag all the baddies with a "BAD GUY" flag and zap them with our death ray gun.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by MOBIUS
Of course I still think Tookie should die - talk about a waste of resources keeping him alive all this time...

Thank you Mobius

[Sava]

Actually, to make everything just about right (statistically) they should have killed 30 more white people in 2003.

Then there is no more argument about racism for the anti-DP people.

C'mon... 30 prisoners? I'm sure they could have killed 30 more white prisoners just to shut these morons up.

Then it would have been 74 white people put to death out of 95 total executed.

I guess we have to keep things proportionally correct so it's not "racist".

You execute the people who commit the crimes. If they happen to be white, they are white. If they are black, they are black.

We are talking about 65 total people that were put to death. How in God's name can you say that there is RACISM involved when we are talking about 65 people?

[MOBIUS]

What's that, 24 years of maximum security - how much would that add up to in money spent and resources used that could have been spent on more 'deserving' things?

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Ted Striker



Whether it's immoral or not is besides the particular point.

Yes it is immoral, but it's also racist.

Regarding the specifics of this case, I never claimed racism was in play, neither you nor I have the specifics.

What we do have is proven historical track record of the death penalty being racist, and it certainly stacks the odds unfairly against blacks. That's not an opinion, that's pretty much fact.

what is more murders are committed by blacks?
(I dont have that answer)

I am just saying is a murder is a murder

put them folks to death

All these bleeding heart liberals, what if it were there family that was murdered, would folks say"Wait, whats the score, I mean are we even, Blacks still equal to whites in ratio of being put down, ddoesnt make a difference if a black man killed 1 or 100 times more

just keep it even steven, just like promotions at work, make sure minorities get the nod even if they are stupid or unqualified, lets still promote them over more qualified individuals

ok

we in North Carolina put a white boy to death last week

at 3 am Tookie joins him

will someone put up a scoreboard update?

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Whether it's immoral or not is besides the particular point.

Yes it is immoral, but it's also racist.

Regarding the specifics of this case, I never claimed racism was in play, neither you nor I have the specifics.

Silly me, expecting that your rants on the racism of the death penalty would have some relation to the thread topic.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll


I am just saying is a murder is a murder

put them folks to death

So what's the difference when the state does it?


What happens when they kill an innocent man?


Who dies then?

[Ninot]

is he dieing by chair or lethal injection?

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel


Silly me, expecting that your rants on the racism of the death penalty would have some relation to the thread topic.

Actually if you had bothered to read the original post it had several points, racism being only one of them. Regarding the rants, it was the other guys who pushed it, I just educated them on it.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Ninot
is he dieing by chair or lethal injection?

lethal

[Dis]

Originally posted by Ninot
is he dieing by chair or lethal injection?

lethal. California does not have the chair.

I believe Florida is the only state that still does.