Alexander

[MarkG]

Originally posted by dino_2d
And the new foundings are going toward that we didnt come frome Russia but that Macedonians went there.

so russians are ancient macedonians? this is a new theory....

And i will like this Greek guy to explain why from about 60-70 known words from ancient Macedonia about 50 are used even today in my language.

first explain me why there is no written evidence of this 70-words(!) supposed "ancient macedonian" language, while the entire area of macedonia is spread with artifacts in greek writing...

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Last Conformist
Incidentally, possibly as much as 50% of the modern Greek gene pool is of Slavic derivation.

no, it's the other way around

[Kuciwalker]

50% of the modern Slavic gene pool is of Greek derivation?

That would make me a quarter Greek

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Az
yeah, well palestinians claim they're the canaanites, as well ( hint, they're not: no cultural evidence, no linguistic evidence ). Does this mean we can do whatever we want to them? of course not.

actually, you do whatever you want to them

anyway, i dont the palestinian history claims, but the difference is that they dont promote their supposed history as a means of "liberating" their "enslaved brothers"....

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
50% of the modern Slavic gene pool is of Greek derivation?

didnt you know that there are actually over 100 millions of greeks around the world?

That would make me a quarter Greek

that's really scary!

i'm just saying that i dont give much credit to gene pool surveys. they are not exact, statistics get involved and when statistics get involved you can any kind of argument you like

[Last Conformist]

The Panslavists must hate people like Dino with a passion.

[dino_2d]

Originally posted by MarkG
so russians are ancient macedonians? this is a new theory....

And i will like this Greek guy to explain why from about 60-70 known words from ancient Macedonia about 50 are used even today in my language.

first explain me why there is no written evidence of this 70-words(!) supposed "ancient macedonian" language, while the entire area of macedonia is spread with artifacts in greek writing...

Russians are certanly not Macedonians but Maceonians spread their culture on them taht you can see in the similarity of the Gods.
Answer me what kind of tribe were this Slavas and thay menaged to conquer half of Europe mayb ethay had tanks or something like that.

[dino_2d]

http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/ConciseMacedonia/similarities.html

Ancient and modern Macedonian language

[Az]

anyway, i dont the palestinian history claims, but the difference is that they dont promote their supposed history as a means of "liberating" their "enslaved brothers"....

Actually, they do.

[Durdyn]

Originally posted by dino_2d
Macedonia was never Greek before 1912 and the majority of population in Solun (Tessaloniki ) is even today of Macedonian origin and what is more interesting thay speak same language as i do, bud the democratic level in Greece is not to evolved i mean it is on the same level as in the Hitlers Germany.

Oh my God, I can't believe that people like you really exist.
I've lived in Thessaloniki all my life.
Every single woman and man I've met in my life in this city is Greek and speaks Greek.
I've NEVER met anyone claiming to be "Macedonian" or speaking the so-called "Macedonian" language.
I don't know maybe I was raised in a wrong way and Alexander really never spoke Greek (although all the historic data say he did) and maybe he was an enemy of the Greeks and he was proud to be a slavic Macedonian or whatever else you may believe. Who knows... I may be a victim of Greek propaganda.
But FFS, don't tell me that nowdays in the... Hitleric Greece, in the city called Thessaloniki exist people that are like you and speak the same language as you.
Because if you do believe it, I pity you for your gross ignorance.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Az
Actually, they do.

because Moses was muslim????

[Az]

because they were here first in the historical sense ( which is BS )

[Traianvs]

I'm not into this politic discussion, but the Macedonians were Semi-Greeks. They underwent strong Greek cultural influences thanks to the fact that quite a few Greek cities were closeby which is a natural thing of course. Nevertheless as far as I know they weren't seen as true Greeks. Being Greek is more a feeling than anything else really and it's not because Macedonians started copying typical Greek things that they were seen as actual Greeks... But like many things, after a while they were seen as Greeks, not in the least because Alexander himself considered all things Greek to be superior.

There are a good number of things that were a bit strange for Greeks though. They were a kingdom with a sizeable territory and not a city state, and before the 4th century they were not developed in the same sense as most other Greeks were
that's what i think anyway

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by MarkG
Yet this simple quote has become a "flag" for fyromian nationalists...

I wonder if you realize that "fyromian" is extremely offensive to all the people I spoke with when I was in Skopje. While you might indeed be correct on everything you have argued, I would hope that you would show them some common respect. It's not as if calling them "Macedonian" makes you less of a man or something.

[Kontiki]

This is what happens when all you have to cling to is some semblance of greatness 2000 years ago. So sad.