Alexander

[dino_2d]

Can someone answer me why is Alexander shown as a Greek leader when even a crows on the tree know that he is MACEDONIAN.
Stop stealing Macedonian history.

P.S.
Great game except the above mentionet bug that i hope will be fixed in some next patch.

Thanx

[Martinus]

lol I love people like you

No, really.

Alexander was Macedonian. Cleopatra was Macedonian. Catherine was German. Victoria was German. Washington was British. Napoleon was Corsican.

[Son of David]

Ma·ce·don

An ancient kingdom of northern Greece originally occupying territory north of Thessaly and northwest of the Aegean Sea. It was the center of a powerful empire under Philip II and his son Alexander the Great and contributed significantly to the spread of Hellenistic civilization. It became the first Roman province in 146 B.C.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=macedonia

So he was technically Greek then?

[Jonah5]

At least it was called Alexander's empire and not the Greek empire;
Washington, Napoleon, and Cleopatra were official rulers of their nations, whether they were from the places they ruled or not. I think Cleopatra was born in Egypt and Corsica was part of Frace at the time Napoleon was born. Washington is self-explanatory.
*No rudeness intended*

[Jonah5]

Ugh I don't know anything about Victoria or Catherine.

[Boris Godunov]

Cleopatra was as much Egyptian as she was Macedonian, so that's not fair.

And Washington wasn't British, he was born in Virginia. While that was an English Colony at the time, he wouldn't have really been considered "British." And when he was U.S. President, he was unquestionably "American."

[Boris Godunov]

Oh, and Victoria wasn't German. She was born in the UK to the fourth son of King George III (who while of German descent, was also born in the UK). Victoria's mother was German, but she herself was fully British by any meaningful definition.

[Diadem]

Well Macedon was a Greek nation. So Alexander was a greek leader. Not *the* great leader obviously, he only lead one of the Greek nations.

But there never was a single leader for all the Greek nations. So it makes sense to just pick one of the best known Greek leaders. Which happened to be Alexander.

[Martinus]

Well, once he conquered of all Greece, he was the leader of all the Greek nations, technically.

[Last Conformist]

He even used "hegemon of the Greeks" or something like that in his titulature.

[Handel]

Everyone knows the ancient Macedonia have nothing in common with todays Macedonia. The ancient Macedonia was a greek state - as much as Athens, Sparta and many others.
The todays Macedonia is a fake nation created by Stalin after the end or WWII on the rule "divide and conquer". It consists from parts of Greek, Serbia, Albania and Bulgaria.

[Shogun Gunner]

I love how this topic comes up from time to time regarding FYROM. What a beautiful name for a country - FYROM

People look for absolutes in life. There are not any 100% absolutes -- even in the most technical aspects of science were widely held scientific beliefs are shaken from time to time. Speed of light is constant? Not according to some new theories in physics regarding black holes.

So, you have an immigrant to a country. He lives there a long time. At what exact moment does he cease to be the nationality of his former country and fully the nationality of his new country. When does that split second of change occur. Obviously, there's no concise, absolute, definitive answer to that question.

When is a ruler a ruler of his nation? When he's elected? What about dictatorships? When he controls the country? What if that is challenged to some degree? Again, not an obvious answer, but common sense makes that a bit easier, no?

Not happy that Alexander is the ruler of Greece, when he's Macedonian? Great. Let's debate this whole subject to death just one more time, because this time I'm sure we can work it out and get a 100% acceptance on our conclusion.

The over/under before MarkG weighs in with his opinion is set to 4 posts.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Shogun Gunner
The over/under before MarkG weighs in with his opinion is set to 4 posts.

Catherine is a good point - she wasn't Russian.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Last Conformist
He even used "hegemon of the Greeks" or something like that in his titulature.

he was elected (yeah, well, ok, there really was a vote!) "hegemon" (leader) and "strategos"(commander in chief) of all greeks for the purpose of geting revenge from the persians

http://www.macedonian-heritage.gr/HellenicMacedonia/en/A1.4.html

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Jonah5
At least it was called Alexander's empire and not the Greek empire;
Washington, Napoleon, and Cleopatra were official rulers of their nations

Alexander was the official ruler of Greeks as well (see post above)

and i dont think there was ever an official name of "alexander's empire" (nor one of a "greek empire" either)....