So only religious nuts can define Family Values? Nice logic.
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I'd really prefer a breakdown then just the clock.That's why I went to statscanada since they have a much more detailed accounting of the federal debt.
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per capita Canada - $805.6 billion/31 million = $25,987
per capita US - $9.3 trillion/300 million = $31,000
So, a little over 19% more per capita debt in the US.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
And Americans make about 20% more then Canadians. So by your figures, it's a wash. It doesn't matter how much you owe in debt, but how much of a percentage of your income.
You continue to ignore the gact that the US is plunging itself into debt at an alarming rate whereas Canada is taking some modest steps to pay down our debt.
Oh and on healthcare . . . it IS legitimate to consider such a high-price item when comparing the incomes of the two countries. . .. and Canada permits you to avail yourself of the US system if you want. If you come up with the cash , I bet you could get a US doctor to do work on you immediatelyYou don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
And Americans make about 20% more then Canadians. So by your figures, it's a wash. It doesn't matter how much you owe in debt, but how much of a percentage of your income.
But the reality is, it's not a wash. You were quoting average incomes, which are skewed towards the US's advantages in the highest income levels. If you compare median incomes, you'll find a much different story:
median Canada, 2003 - $23,600
median US, 2003 - $23,902
You might also note that even the CIA lists this nice little fact about US incomes:
Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households.
So you see, the average person does not make 20% more in the US than in Canada. Want to move the goalposts again?"The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Gee, I'd rather have care then have to wait a year or so.
I guess I'm not the only one guilty of oversimplying things right Jim.
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Originally posted by Kontiki
US prosperity over Canadian.
Actually I was when I got to the NASCAR event just down the road at Michigan Speedway. Of course I didn't see one black person in sight at the event. But I saw lots of white folk spending LOTs of money.
Yeehaw, God bless America, freedom at any price.
Its all about the Money Honey.
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Originally posted by notyoueither
It is difficult to determine where to begin with this... mess.
Perhaps it would be better to proceed to the end and remind Aggie about the bit along the lines of it being better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are ignorant than to open it and remove all doubt.
That's the best you can do.
You know nothing about this, as has been proved time after time. Why not stick to ranting in public bars, where you will have an uninformed and appreciative audience for your ill-considered ravings.Only feebs vote.
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Originally posted by notyoueither
Huh? We export more food, minerals, lumber, electricity, and petrochemicals than we import, by far. At the same time, we are one of the major industrialised economies in the world (meaning we consume a lot of those resources as well). We have more oil than Saudi Arabia FFS, how could anyone other than a dolt say that we are anything other than filthy stinkin' rich (compared to others)?
Canadians should be glad to have it explained to us that leaders from MacDonald through Pearson, and Canadians in general, were lambs wandering the wilderness until PET gave us the scent of our nation.
Now, I'm all for the integration of the mentally handicapped into jobs and functions that can lead to them having more fulfilling lives, but surely we should require that they be more than deaf, dumb, and blind when they claim to have listened to us after having landed at the UofT some few number of years ago, proposing to speak for us from a coffee counter in Toronto (not having worked up the nerve to venture forth into those lands where heathens reside; AKA outside of the GTA) and refusing to see the implications of a federal government putting out contracts that result in millions being kicked back to the ruling party. Did I mention that not a single officer of said party is under indictment as of yet? Why do you suppose that is?
I'm not going to get into defence, healthcare, taxation, and the other areas of our national government that the writer demonstrates a profound ignorance of. They would be boring. I'll leave it at the highlighted howlers, for now.
You are a political and economic illiterate. As has been shown by your refusal to engage in debate and your ridiculous non sequiturs.Only feebs vote.
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Originally posted by Max Webster
Yes as I drive through the streets of Detroit I was just amazed at the level of US prosperity.
Actually I was when I got to the NASCAR event just down the road at Michigan Speedway. Of course I didn't see one black person in sight at the event. But I saw lots of white folk spending LOTs of money.
Yeehaw, God bless America, freedom at any price.
Its all about the Money Honey.~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Again, I believe this number includes the state debt. The only numbers I have seen pegging the US state debt is only about 1 and a half trillion dollars. So in order to compare apples to oranges, you have to include provincial debt.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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Flubber:
(apologies to Kontiki, all these Canuck flags confuse me).
You continue to ignore the gact that the US is plunging itself into debt at an alarming rate whereas Canada is taking some modest steps to pay down our debt.
Oh and on healthcare . . . it IS legitimate to consider such a high-price item when comparing the incomes of the two countries. . .. and Canada permits you to avail yourself of the US system if you want. If you come up with the cash , I bet you could get a US doctor to do work on you immediately.Last edited by Ben Kenobi; December 1, 2005, 16:52.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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But the reality is, it's not a wash. You were quoting average incomes, which are skewed towards the US's advantages in the highest income levels. If you compare median incomes, you'll find a much different story:
So you see, the average person does not make 20% more in the US than in Canada. Want to move the goalposts again?Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Well said joncha.
Max Webster:
I personally have seen folks that have waited a year for treatment, including my grandmother. Count yourself fortunate that you haven't experienced the waits, they are very real and a huge problem that needs to be dealt with, not ignored.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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I didn't post any of that, Ben.
Edit: re post #252"The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
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