Originally posted by Pekka
There are weird things around Jesus that should be otherwise if he was to be son of God, to make more sense. First of all, why don't we have any of his writings? I'm sure he must of written things. To say he wasn't much of a writing man, that's more weird than the opposite would be.
Also, I find it weird that Christians often times goes exactly the opposite way of teachings of the Christ, I find it weird that there is no mention of the dinosauruses in the bible even if some dufus claims there is. There is none. God created earth and all that in 7 days. So.. where are the dynosauruses mentioned and that life before humans? Nowhere. Then again, people back then didn't know about dynos. People who wrote the bible.
That's one weirdness more.
What I'm saying is. Not only does bible need modernisation in forms of adding more gospels to it, it also lacks as a religion when we talk about modern days. Not only that, one of the biggest points of the whole hippie cruice of Jesus has totally been left out of the action of Christians, those who usually are more loud than others, and that is to tolerate others, and to co-operate and stuff. We don't even co-operate in this religion with each other. We have separate churches, tons of them. Some believe you should wear jelly on your head on Tuesdays, some believe you should probably cut your willy off for you own good when you are 3, some teach all the other Christians have gotten it wrong, and in some you just make a considerable money contribution and hallelujah you are a good man.
What I'm sayign is, if Christians are literally the followers of the Christ, we have failed miserably. We aren't following the Christ at all here. I mean some are. And some who are loud, they are following too. But some fundamentals of the whole thing has been lost, and between all the arguing if we should walk backward every other Saturday, I mean who cares? Is that REALLY important? Christianity in different countries differ.
And why does the churches carry the ultimate power of saying how things oughta be done so you do it right? If I believe in Jesus, that should be enough, I shouldn't have to jump through hoops the church makes up. And why can't I criticize the churches and their actions, hypocricy of it, and be the real follower. We need to look around and clean our own base first before throwing any rocks. That should be the most Christian act a member can do. If someone has a problem with it, I think they have lost their ways already.
There are weird things around Jesus that should be otherwise if he was to be son of God, to make more sense. First of all, why don't we have any of his writings? I'm sure he must of written things. To say he wasn't much of a writing man, that's more weird than the opposite would be.
Also, I find it weird that Christians often times goes exactly the opposite way of teachings of the Christ, I find it weird that there is no mention of the dinosauruses in the bible even if some dufus claims there is. There is none. God created earth and all that in 7 days. So.. where are the dynosauruses mentioned and that life before humans? Nowhere. Then again, people back then didn't know about dynos. People who wrote the bible.
That's one weirdness more.
What I'm saying is. Not only does bible need modernisation in forms of adding more gospels to it, it also lacks as a religion when we talk about modern days. Not only that, one of the biggest points of the whole hippie cruice of Jesus has totally been left out of the action of Christians, those who usually are more loud than others, and that is to tolerate others, and to co-operate and stuff. We don't even co-operate in this religion with each other. We have separate churches, tons of them. Some believe you should wear jelly on your head on Tuesdays, some believe you should probably cut your willy off for you own good when you are 3, some teach all the other Christians have gotten it wrong, and in some you just make a considerable money contribution and hallelujah you are a good man.
What I'm sayign is, if Christians are literally the followers of the Christ, we have failed miserably. We aren't following the Christ at all here. I mean some are. And some who are loud, they are following too. But some fundamentals of the whole thing has been lost, and between all the arguing if we should walk backward every other Saturday, I mean who cares? Is that REALLY important? Christianity in different countries differ.
And why does the churches carry the ultimate power of saying how things oughta be done so you do it right? If I believe in Jesus, that should be enough, I shouldn't have to jump through hoops the church makes up. And why can't I criticize the churches and their actions, hypocricy of it, and be the real follower. We need to look around and clean our own base first before throwing any rocks. That should be the most Christian act a member can do. If someone has a problem with it, I think they have lost their ways already.
I also encourage different groups to beleive in different things. In something as complicated as the Bible is, people need to be allowed to have different interprations. That is why we are all christians, but we have different denomiations. And I do think that it is evil when the denominations fight. Recognising that we are brothers/sisters in Christ should be important (this is something my own denomination has been week on at times). I do, however, think it is good to band together in denomiations. That gives your ideas support, and there can be a bit of difference caused by the denominations (SDAs are very different then Lutherans or Catholics, and are much more similiar to Methodists).
As to why Christ didn't have writings.. I am not sure. Maybe there were some (many theologians beleive in a manuscrpt of His quotes that were used by the authors of Mathew, Mark, and Luke). One possibility is that God wanted to the whole Bible to be studied, while if there was a book written by Jesus, many would only study that. Since interpreations are made by the reader (as well as the writer), there would be a lot less Bible.. unless Christ spent all His time writing.. But I admit I don't know.
As far as the other gospels, there are reasons why they are not included. Basically, back a long time ago when people were arguing theology, those groups (which became christianity) agreed on some things (like the divinity of Christ). Gospels that were from other groups (like the gnostics..) weren't included. Now I admit that that is not an argument for the other gospels to be false. It is an argument for the other gospels not to be taken as canon by christians though.
I agree that many who claim to be christians aren't following Christ. Christ cared for His fellow man, the poor, the sick, those who needed help. Many 'christians' think that those are just the natural results of sin, and if the people repent that God will help them. They ignore the fact that Christ cared for the sick and poor. And that God works most often through people. Also many 'christians' are filled with hate for different religions and for homosexuals. Hate is very unchristianlike (is a sin). So yes, christians should work on themselves.
As far as it goes, God asked us to obey his laws. Since I beleive that one of Gods laws is that we should keep that Sabbath holy, I will try to do so. Keeping His laws is not silly legalism, like your example (some other SDA practices very well might be).
Jon Miller
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