Well not really. No throwdowns in this thread. Because these religion natured threads usually go to that, 'uh you're such an idiot because you have faith!' 'I have faith and you are decadent little butt toy!'. You know. Let's keep those issues fighting issues, not posters disrespecting others directly. Just skip it if you don't have anything to say but want to just get the heat on. This is not your thread.
OK!
To the point. I was wondering last night, that it struck me.. it struck me that.. what if all the other major religions are right about Jesus and we Christians got it wrong? What if.. Jesus was actually a man just like the rest of us. A very influental well spoken and well meaning important man, but just that.. a prophet perhaps.. but not the Son of God.
Even if Jesus was not really from Virgin Mary, but Joseph and Mary, well that would make more sense and it wouldn't crumble the thing just there. But if he was a mortal man, a prophet even.. it crumbles in my opinion. Then we would be kind of worshipping a dude, not really son of God. Where does that leave us? Salvation and doors to heaven and God goes through Jesus according to Christianity, and if Christ was just a bum like the rest of us.. well, we'd be in the wrong, out of the field.
This would mean everyone else is right, Jews, Muslims, everyone. Face it, we are the minority here. And they, Jews and Muslims and all these people, they have investigated too, they have been there when Jesus was there, many gospels don't reckon Jesus was son of God but a prophet and groovy man wearing pajamas and slippers like a hippie. I heard, that in fact MOST gospels tells you this, and the very few gives him the role in son of God.
We should think that this would be the faith part, one of them, but what if we're just plain wrong. It all depends on what Jesus says, and because he is son of God, he is telling the truth, thus being son of God and all that jazz. But most eye witness reports, as in facts, points that he might not be. Bible is just bunch of writings from different folks, who says what is in there, and that this is it and nothing important is left out? The decision on what is in the bible dominates the Jesus being son of God, but that collection was decided by normal men. What if they just made a mistake by allowing the minority report dominate?
I think more arguments should be made than 'that's the faith part'. Or that 'because Jesus himself said so'. Now, arguments against and for. I'm going to grill those arguments, not because I have my mind made, but because I want to put those arguments on a test. I'm still Christian and all that, I just had a thought, and now I want to hear your thoughts.
EVEN if Jesus was a mortal man, it wouldn't of course mean God doesn't exist. It would just mean Christians are bowing to a dude, who really isn't the son of God, but an important man none of the less and that we are just worshipping God in a weird way. Kind of .. blasphemeous way.
I asked this question from Jesus last night but he was too busy to answer. Now it's your turn.
OK!
To the point. I was wondering last night, that it struck me.. it struck me that.. what if all the other major religions are right about Jesus and we Christians got it wrong? What if.. Jesus was actually a man just like the rest of us. A very influental well spoken and well meaning important man, but just that.. a prophet perhaps.. but not the Son of God.
Even if Jesus was not really from Virgin Mary, but Joseph and Mary, well that would make more sense and it wouldn't crumble the thing just there. But if he was a mortal man, a prophet even.. it crumbles in my opinion. Then we would be kind of worshipping a dude, not really son of God. Where does that leave us? Salvation and doors to heaven and God goes through Jesus according to Christianity, and if Christ was just a bum like the rest of us.. well, we'd be in the wrong, out of the field.
This would mean everyone else is right, Jews, Muslims, everyone. Face it, we are the minority here. And they, Jews and Muslims and all these people, they have investigated too, they have been there when Jesus was there, many gospels don't reckon Jesus was son of God but a prophet and groovy man wearing pajamas and slippers like a hippie. I heard, that in fact MOST gospels tells you this, and the very few gives him the role in son of God.
We should think that this would be the faith part, one of them, but what if we're just plain wrong. It all depends on what Jesus says, and because he is son of God, he is telling the truth, thus being son of God and all that jazz. But most eye witness reports, as in facts, points that he might not be. Bible is just bunch of writings from different folks, who says what is in there, and that this is it and nothing important is left out? The decision on what is in the bible dominates the Jesus being son of God, but that collection was decided by normal men. What if they just made a mistake by allowing the minority report dominate?
I think more arguments should be made than 'that's the faith part'. Or that 'because Jesus himself said so'. Now, arguments against and for. I'm going to grill those arguments, not because I have my mind made, but because I want to put those arguments on a test. I'm still Christian and all that, I just had a thought, and now I want to hear your thoughts.
EVEN if Jesus was a mortal man, it wouldn't of course mean God doesn't exist. It would just mean Christians are bowing to a dude, who really isn't the son of God, but an important man none of the less and that we are just worshipping God in a weird way. Kind of .. blasphemeous way.
I asked this question from Jesus last night but he was too busy to answer. Now it's your turn.
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