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    Spain Legalizes Same-Sex Marriage

    By RENWICK McLEAN
    Published: June 30, 2005

    MADRID, June 30 - The Spanish Parliament gave final approval today to a bill legalizing same-sex marriage, making Spain only the second nation to eliminate all legal distinctions between same-sex and heterosexual unions, according to supporters of the bill.

    The measure, passed by a vote of 187 to 147, establishes that couples will have the same rights, including the freedom to marry and to adopt children, regardless of gender.

    "Today, Spanish society is responding to a group of people who have been humiliated, whose rights have been ignored, their dignity offended, their identity denied and their freedom restricted," Prime Minister José Luis Rodíguez Zapatero told Parliament.

    Spain is the fourth country to legalize gay marriage, after Canada, Holland and Belgium.

    But only Canada's law, which was extended nationwide by Parliament this week, contains language as liberal as Spain's, according to gay marriage advocates.

    The Spanish measure simply adds one sentence to existing law: "Marriage will have the same requirements and results when the two people entering into the contract are of the same sex or of different sexes."

    The laws in Holland and Belgium, by contrast, create a separate category of rights for same-sex couples that fall short of full equality on issues like adoption, these advocates say.

    "Spain is talking about total equality," said Kursad Kahramanoglu, the secretary general of the International Lesbian and Gay Association. "The only other place in the world where this has actually happened is Canada."

    The Canadian House of Commons voted Tuesday on its measure to change the traditional definition of marriage, and once the Senate formally approves it, gay marriage will be legal throughout the land.

    Today's vote in Spain had been widely expected, since the bill had already been approved convincingly in a preliminary vote in April.

    The bill then went to the Senate, where it was rejected in a non-binding vote, before going back to the lower house for today's final approval.

    Although it had no practical effect, the Senate vote indicated the sharp opposition to the bill that has emerged in Spanish society, particularly among religious conservatives.

    Some two weeks ago, hundreds of thousands of people marched through downtown Madrid in protest against the bill, saying it was an assault on the institution of marriage.

    The mayor of Valladolid, Francisco Javier León de la Riva, has said that he will not carry out the new law, and Catholic leaders have called on government officials to become conscientious objectors and to refuse to participate in any events involving the marriage of homosexual couples.

    Shortly after the preliminary vote in April, the archbishop of Barcelona, Cardinal Ricard María Carlés Gordó, , compared government workers opposing the law but agreeing to carry it out to the Nazis at Auschwitz, who "believed that they had to obey the laws of the Nazi government before their own conscience."

    Despite the intensity of the opposition, polls show that most Spaniards, between 55 and 65 percent, support gay marriage. Even many of those who oppose the bill passed today say they agree with allowing same-sex couples to marry but feel they should not be able to adopt children.

    The law will go into effect immediately after it is published in Parliament's official bulletin, which is expected to occur within a couple of days.


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    Countdown to Fez in 3, 2, 1....
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    • #3
      Next stop, America.
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      • #4
        Yet another country grows more civilized. Hope the world will continue its march forward
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        • #5
          The terrorist have won!
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Asher
            Next stop, America.

            Its a nice thought but I think it will be a slow slow process in the US. I just can't imagine it happening nation-wide in the US for 50 years (but it will come)


            I am still trying to fugure out though how the marriage of two people of the same gender in any way lessens my marriage to someone of the opposite gender -- Maybe Ben K could explain it to me
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            • #7
              In Spain already we have recognized the rights of gays.
              El futuro pertenece a quienes creen en la belleza de sus sueños.
              - Eleanor Roosevelt

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Flubber
                I am still trying to fugure out though how the marriage of two people of the same gender in any way lessens my marriage to someone of the opposite gender -- Maybe Ben K could explain it to me
                Because even though gays had equal rights to get married to someone of the opposite sex which Ben would welcome, them now being able to marry someone of the same sex is somehow a drain on the rest of society.
                "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
                "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
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                • #9
                  I find it ironic that a nation so intrinsicly religious in the past became one of the first nations to recongize gay marriage. Yes, I know Spain has changed thoughout the 20th century and such, but you have to appreciate the irony.
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                  • #10
                    Spain is the fourth country to legalize gay marriage, after Canada, Holland and Belgium.
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                    • #11
                      Speaking of which, what was Fez's position on this issue? I forgot.
                      "Compromises are not always good things. If one guy wants to drill a five-inch hole in the bottom of your life boat, and the other person doesn't, a compromise of a two-inch hole is still stupid." - chegitz guevara
                      "Bill3000: The United Demesos? Boy, I was young and stupid back then.
                      Jasonian22: Bill, you are STILL young and stupid."

                      "is it normal to imaginne dartrh vader and myself in a tjhreee way with some hot chick? i'ts always been my fantasy" - Dis

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                      • #12
                        I'm sure it's along the lines of "I'll **** them, but I won't put a ring on their finger because gay marriage is for degenerate Eurocoms!"
                        If you look around and think everyone else is an *******, you're the *******.

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                        • #13
                          horrah to Spain!!
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                          • #14
                            All the chicas are belong to me

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                            • #15
                              I am still trying to fugure out though how the marriage of two people of the same gender in any way lessens my marriage to someone of the opposite gender -- Maybe Ben K could explain it to me
                              Maybe I could. In the thread titled, 'CanPol'.

                              Short and sweet, the concept that marriage doesn't care whether you are a man or a woman does effect what marriage means between a man and a woman.
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