Schiavo Autopsy report ready

[Boris Godunov]

There's proof of their manipulation in the video they released in an attempt to garner sympathy for their cause. They presented a heavily edited video of Terri. When the unedited video was shown to the judge, he was singularly unimpressed and said it showed the opposite of their claims. They have refused to release the full video, and the only reason must be that the judge's assessment of it is correct. So, in essence, they lied to the public to garner support.

[chequita guevara]

I wanted to be sympathetic, even though I disagreed with them. They just made it impossible because of their lies.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
There's proof of their manipulation in the video they released in an attempt to garner sympathy for their cause. They presented a heavily edited video of Terri. When the unedited video was shown to the judge, he was singularly unimpressed and said it showed the opposite of their claims. They have refused to release the full video, and the only reason must be that the judge's assessment of it is correct. So, in essence, they lied to the public to garner support.

People believe what they want to believe. Hell, a jury unanimously acquitted O.J. We've got flat earthers and scientologists and 38 morons who bought into the idea that you needed a five dollar bill and three quarters in your right front pants pocket to pay taxi fare on that UFO they were about to catch.

Pillorying Michael Schiavo is entirely typical - he obviously was an infidel non-believer, because not only did he deny seeing that Terri was responsive, he wanted to keep her from getting better with therapy. Then he had the gall to say she had an "eating disorder" - our Terri didn't have an eating disorder, he's obviously making that up. And as hard as he's trying to kill her, he must be out to finish the job he started and blamed on her with that "eating disorder" vile lie. And good GOD-FEARING people tell us we're right and sympathize with us, so THE LORD must be on our side... yadda yadda blah blah...

****, a third of the country or thereabouts still think Saddam had something to do with 9/11. You don't need intent, deceipt and conspiracy theories to explain things when simple human idiocy and obsession will do.

[Mr. Harley]

Fine - I apologize. I did mean Governor George Bush of Texas reference the law that was signed. Which everyone else figured out due to that funny thing called - drum roll - context.

[Boris Godunov]

That's all great, MtG, and I agree with it, but none of that addresses my specific point, which was that there is no way they could do what they did with the video without knowing they were being dishonest. Now, they may have felt it was a justified lie to meet their ends, but it was still a lie. Otherwise, they would have released the whole video.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Where is Ned who said the autopsy results would have SHOCKING results that the husband killed Terry?

Seems to show that her husband was right and that she never would have gotten better.

What I don't understand (yet) is why the earlier bone scan showed trauma.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
That's all great, MtG, and I agree with it, but none of that addresses my specific point, which was that there is no way they could do what they did with the video without knowing they were being dishonest. Now, they may have felt it was a justified lie to meet their ends, but it was still a lie. Otherwise, they would have released the whole video.

Did they personally shoot and edit it?

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Originally posted by shawnmmcc
Fine - I apologize. I did mean Governor George Bush of Texas reference the law that was signed. Which everyone else figured out due to that funny thing called - drum roll - context.

Funny the governor as you are caling him is no longer a governor but unfortunatly the president so if indeed u were refering to george shouldnt u have stated president??? The last point in this is the parents were willing to pay for this womans support and asked to be allowed to do so. Regradless of whether all of us tom dick and harry's care of her state of being, the parents did.

[Dinner]

The thing to remember out of all this is that in everything, [b[absolutely EVERYTHING[/b], Ned and the Christian fundim4entalistys were proved to be wrong. Scientificaly there is no debate and the liars who tried to claim there was are just that... liars.

[Ben Kenobi]

Fine - I apologize. I did mean Governor George Bush of Texas reference the law that was signed. Which everyone else figured out due to that funny thing called - drum roll - context.

Seems you were rather deliberately vague. Had you said Governor George Bush, or Gov. Bush of Texas it would have been crystal clear. The context was not clear which Bush you were speaking of unless one were already familiar with the bill.

I was not aware that the former Governor of Texas, now President, signed a bill in Texas, that said what you claimed it said.

Secondly, you said the bill in Texas applied to people such as Ms. Schiavo. Now my point is this, if the autopsy proves you right, that is one thing. But what is there to celebrate? The woman is dead. If the autopsy were wrong, there would be nothing that could be done for Ms. Schiavo, and no way to correct a mistake. I don't believe Ms. Sciavo fell under the provisions of the Texas bill, for the simple reason that she had folks who were more than willing to pay for her care, unlike, as you pointed out earlier, the other woman who was on medicaid.

[MichaeltheGreat]

So your position is that the "right to life" is dependent on the will and means of a third party to pay for that life?

[Ben Kenobi]

No, I merely said the bill signed by Gov. Bush in Texas does not apply to Ms. Schiavo.

My position is that regardless of the cognitive state of the patient, no patient should be denied food and water. She was not hooked up to a ventilator. She was not having her bodily functions sustained through extraordinary means. She was deliberately starved, in order so that she may die. That is what I find the most wrong, and the most despicable violation of the right to life of Ms. Schiavo. She did not say that she wanted to die. There was no evidence that she ever said that she wanted to die, and yet she was starved and eventually died from lack of food.

[MichaeltheGreat]

So, that great, moral right-to-lifer who's now our President is the one who decided that the "right to life" is contingent on a third party stepping up to pay for it?

As far as her expressed desires, how many courts (many with conservative Republican judges or justices) looked at the evidence in the case and differed with your conclusion?

Or is Florida filled with atheist woman-killing liberal activist judges?

The only thing she could process was pain, and intubating someone to feed them goop through the stomach wall is a bit extraordinary if it's planned to be done for decades.

What "life" are you talking about, exactly?

[Dr Strangelove]

Well, who cares if her brain was shriveled up to the size of a chimp's? The same was true of Strom Thurman, but he continued to perform his duties as a US senator for years, and years, and years, and years.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

being as it isnt a life any of us here so far would want to live, but be that as it may it was still a life.