eye for an eye

[Mrs. Tuberski]

I agree. She has a different attitude of her attacker then i do Maybe she is forforgiving
but for those married guys how would it make you feel if this person raped was your wife

[Pekka]

No offense, by any means, but that's not the question you ask when we think about justice system. If we ask that question, we have DP for every crime, and worse.

The way you .. rank punishments is not supposed to be based on what the victim wants. It has to be more objective, than subjective, yet it has to .. have a kind of balance, where the victim isn't 'screwed' either. This means, that the punishments can't be so low, that vigilantism prevails.

But I agree, that when it comes to violent crimes of any kind, punishments should be rather higher than lower.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
I agree. She has a different attitude of her attacker then i do Maybe she is forforgiving
but for those married guys how would it make you feel if this person raped was your wife

Obviously, it'd make me want to rape the guy who did it.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

The probem with an eye for an eye is that you still lose your eye. Unless you're advocating taking his eye and using it as your own, which wouldn't be that ddifficult, medically-speaking, but would present unfortunate problems if the color, size, etc. didn't match.

Otherwise the only real way to make an eye for an eye work is to make it pre-emptive, and get their eyes before they get ours.

[tinyp3nis]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Hardly an argument endorsing either position.

If you believe it is wrong to retaliate, it will be wrong whether or not someone sees you do so.

Oh Benny.
And if I don't think it's wrong?(which would be the correct assumption out of one really lame one and really good one)

[Japher]

The probem with an eye for an eye is that you still lose your eye.

I concur THe problem with an eye for an eye is that we end up with a world full of eyeless ppl.

Me, I am for the dp and other violent retaliation. However, I am also for addressing the solution and not just the problem. Punishments address only the problem.

[Ben Kenobi]

And if I don't think it's wrong?(which would be the correct assumption out of one really lame one and really good one)

Then why would you care about others seeing you?

[Urban Ranger]

Re: eye for an eye

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
all this talk about Terri's death being an execution got me thinking about another issue. There's plenty of folks out there who think that we should just roll over and take it when we get kicked in the head. Sometimes we should take it, but there's other times we need to stand for ourselves.

So what do yall think about giving an eye for an eye? Would yall rather take it or fight back? Would you stand up for someone weaker than you or let them get pummelled into a locker like a folded accordian?

Standing your ground for you or someone weaker and "eye for an eye" are two different things. One is at the moment, another one is after the fact. One is for justice (more or less), the other one is merely revenge.

[tinyp3nis]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Then why would you care about others seeing you?

You are the one claiming I do. Not only that, but you have said that's what I do and the reason for it too.

If you figure something out maybe I'll help you.

[Ben Kenobi]

I wouldn't fight back unless I knew I would get away with it.

Uh, not claiming anything here.

[tinyp3nis]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Uh, not claiming anything here.

How about me fighting back and getting my ass kicked?

It's still you.

[Ben Kenobi]

ah, okay.

get away with it is ambiguous.

Point well taken.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Let me get this staight youll only fight if you can get away with it. Who wouldnt? Thats kinda chicken S***

[tinyp3nis]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
ah, okay.

get away with it is ambiguous.

Point well taken.

Well you didn't figure it out but I'll answer your earlier "question" aswell anyway. Afterall, what is aftermath if not an delayed ass kicking just performed by someone else, the society if they disagree with you. Disagree is the point here. If society thinks I shouldn't do something it doesn't mean I am wrong. Not only that, society as a whole might not even disagree with me but the law might, that would kick my ass pretty well too. Also, let's assume if the law was something to the effect "if you are gettiing robbed etc you can beat their ass or kill them or whatever", if someone sees a you in a fight how do you prove it was the other guy who is was "in the wrong"?
Not liking people seeing you do stuff has very little to do with your own morals rather than someone elses. Nothing to do with what you were asserting.

Infact I bet you agree with me here remembering that abortion poster thread and how the posters were making people sick. Unless you think you should always do whatever you feel is right no matter what the consequenses for you are.

[tinyp3nis]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
Let me get this staight youll only fight if you can get away with it. Who wouldnt? Thats kinda chicken S***

Exactly. Anyone who isn't maschocist and is in their right mind would bend over, unless rage takes over and screws you totally. Everyone is chicken**** expect the people who don't get to live.