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  • #76
    Considering that even in the conservative backwater of East England where I live, there are dozens of openly gay people who work/shop/live without anyone caring; I doubt you're the spokesman for the People.

    Unless you define the People as the xenophobic, homophobic, racist, closeminded minority that your posts identify you with.
    Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
    -Richard Dawkins

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    • #77
      Page not found – mori
      http://www.mori.com/digest/2000/c000211.shtml


      "But what is also clear is that Britain is far more liberal than any of these figures might suggest, so long as homosexual relationships are confined to consenting adults. More than half in the Gallup poll thought that both kinds of relationship (homosexual and heterosexual) are of equal value. Only 26% stated that homosexual behaviour is "morally wrong" - and they were equally divided on whether or not it should be tolerated anyway. MORI found the public equally divided on the idea that "the Government should do more to ensure that gay relationships are accepted", and even on whether gay couples should be allowed to get married."
      "Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt Whitman

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      • #78
        Apparently, Bods must mean the majority in Zimbabwe or the Sudan. Nice crew to throw yourself in with!
        Tutto nel mondo è burla

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        • #79
          If my childen don't grow up gay, I'll be tremendously disappointed. Bunnygrrl and I will wonder where we went wrong. "Was it us? Were we to heterosexual in front of the kids?" It'll just tear us apart.


          Congrats Asher. I'm glad things seem to be working out so well for you.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #80
            Originally posted by MRT144
            JohnT, how about "its raining men" if you really want to patronize us.
            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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            • #81
              Originally posted by chegitz guevara
              If my childen don't grow up gay, I'll be tremendously disappointed. Bunnygrrl and I will wonder where we went wrong. "Was it us? Were we to heterosexual in front of the kids?" It'll just tear us apart.

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              • #82
                hm~ i don't mind if some of my kids grow up homosexual.

                the one thing that terrifies me, though, is that of the kids that might have, all of them end up either as: priests, nuns, monks, and gay.

                because then nobody will be left to carry on the family line. as long as one of them provides me with one genetic offspring... whatever they do is fine.

                ===

                and asher, congrats... although i was under the assumption you'd already done it. glad it wasn't an issue.
                B♭3

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Q Cubed
                  hm~ i don't mind if some of my kids grow up homosexual.

                  the one thing that terrifies me, though, is that of the kids that might have, all of them end up either as: priests, nuns, monks, and gay.

                  because then nobody will be left to carry on the family line. as long as one of them provides me with one genetic offspring... whatever they do is fine.
                  By the time gay kids born today want children of their own, it'll be like 2030. Of course we'll have the tech to alow smae-sex couples to procreate

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                  • #84
                    If I had a choice whether my kid was to be gay or straight, I'd choose straight. I want to have grandkids, and so should everyone. But when the continuation of my genetic matter is ensured, I wouldn't care.

                    Actually, I wouldn't care at all, as long as I have grandkids. But with gay kids, that somewhat questionable.
                    urgh.NSFW

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Boris Godunov
                      If Bods had a fraction of the courage it took Asher or any of us to come out to parents/family/friends, maybe he wouldn't be such a miserable ****.

                      Congrats, Ashie baby. Hard to believe you did it, right? I know that's how I felt. I think my parents had a similar reaction--cool as cucumbers on the outside, but not so easy with it at first. But they've gotten more used to it as time goes on. Mom still has the "but I want grandkids from you!" fits, but Dad is cool.

                      Big step!
                      Thanks. Yeah, it's hard to believe I did it.

                      It's still really awkward around them, but my dad is acting pretty weird by talking to me more than normal. He came in and said goodnight last night and stuck around for 5 minutes to watch some TV with me (and I was watching MuchMusic...and he hates that). This morning he came and said "Good morning, David" (I can't remember the last time he said that).
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                        If my childen don't grow up gay, I'll be tremendously disappointed. Bunnygrrl and I will wonder where we went wrong. "Was it us? Were we to heterosexual in front of the kids?" It'll just tear us apart.

                        Congrats Asher. I'm glad things seem to be working out so well for you.

                        Thanks Che.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Asher

                          Thanks. Yeah, it's hard to believe I did it.

                          It's still really awkward around them, but my dad is acting pretty weird by talking to me more than normal. He came in and said goodnight last night and stuck around for 5 minutes to watch some TV with me (and I was watching MuchMusic...and he hates that). This morning he came and said "Good morning, David" (I can't remember the last time he said that).
                          Does he want to make sure that you know that how he feels about you as his son has not changed?
                          (\__/)
                          (='.'=)
                          (")_(") This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your signature to help him gain world domination.

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                          • #88
                            Maybe it's just my age group that is more traditional with attitudes towards homos, which the Gallup poll doesn't take into account. But I find it hard to believe as I have never in real life heard someone say that they like gays.
                            www.my-piano.blogspot

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                            • #89
                              Well, that says a lot about your "real life" and the people in it... And since you are the self-proclaimed Voice Of The People I want it publicly known that I never was and never will be People...

                              I've heard some horror stories from gay friends (and it's not contagious, Stewie) about their coming out. Good to know all went that well Asher

                              And in conclusion: @Che
                              Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                              And notifying the next of kin
                              Once again...

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                              • #90
                                If one of my kids told me they were gay I would say fine but "not in my house you aren''t". Children have no sex here and I'll deny till the day I die that I ever did

                                Good luck Asher. Its important you tell your parents things if you need to. If you change your orientation they will understand too.
                                Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                                Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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