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Originally posted by SpencerH
Thugs? Enterprising Iraqi folk who see an opportunity to re-distribute the wealth, thugs? Are you sure you're a eurocomm?
People who take the collective wealth for themselves through the use of force are thugs. I don't see why a communist should forbid them
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Originally posted by SpencerH
Thugs? Enterprising Iraqi folk who see an opportunity to re-distribute the wealth, thugs? Are you sure you're a eurocomm?
Sorry, Spencer, I generally like you, but this is the dumbest troll I heard for at least a week. According to your definition, Al Capone and the Mafia were just "enterprising folks", since they only use an opportunity to redistribute wealth? If it wasn't so sad, I would laugh about it.
It seems that the Iraqis (at least some of them) are well equipped to prosper in a US style democracy. Perhaps it is best that they don't have inconvenient reminders that there is a world history before 1776.
Indeed. I for one vote for protecting people over old shards of pottery.
Oh, and I think I just heard Al Jazeera report that some really cute kittens and adorable puppies were lost because the US was protecting a marketplace instead of the animal shelter. Oh the shame!
And I am sure that US troops would protect Bush's dogs with more eagerness than the articafts or the lives of the Iraqi people
Sir Ralph :
Yes, we've heard of it. It means Saddam was the freest of people
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They're Iraqi artifacts aren't they? They've just moved from the hands of a small number of curators back into the hands of the Iraqi people. Seems like social justice to me.
In the museum they were part of all Iraqi people but in the hands of the looters are arbitrarily in their own possession only.
The curators simply supervised them and the archeologists who excavated them gave the unique opurtunity to people all over the world to learn about human history.
Originally posted by Azazel
They will be solved for good prices to "private collectors". Really.
Makes me wish I was rich. Wonder if Gates has an interest in antiquities.
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of course anyone who is found in the possession of such artifacts should be charged with accessory to crime. and that should be announced now. just a minor discouragmenet...
Sorry, Spencer, I generally like you, but this is the dumbest troll I heard for at least a week. According to your definition, Al Capone and the Mafia were just "enterprising folks", since they only use an opportunity to redistribute wealth? If it wasn't so sad, I would laugh about it.
Its why I dont troll much. I dont seem to have the knack.
But then the whole thread is one big troll. If someone can tell me how 10-20K soldiers can maintain security against irregular fighters and at the same time police 5M Iraqis in Baghdad I'd like to know. But guess what, someone will blame the US for not doing so!
All this made me think of this, which accomodatingly enough has been written also in english in the Boston Globe (1.4.1999)
ATHENS—1821. Greeks are fighting for their independence. In Athens, they besiege the Acropolis, a stronghold of the Turkish occupiers. As the siege grinds on, the Turks' ammunition runs short. They begin to dismantle sections of the Parthenon, prying out the 2,300-year-old lead clamps and melting them down for bullets. The Greek fighters, horrified at this defacement of their patrimony, send the Turks a supply of bullets. Better to arm their foes, they decide, than to let the ancient temple come to harm.
It can well be that those that loot the Iraqi museums are criminals let out of prison for some reason...
Assuming that Iraq stabilizes and gets a better gov't than what it had, I say we postpone all this bellyaching for now and ten years later ask the Iraqis this question:
Would you rather:
a) Have lived under Saddam's enlightened dictatorship for the last 10 years - with the added bonus of knowing that the artifacts were safe in the museum.
or
b) Enjoy the freedoms you have now but, sorry, the artifacts are in some fat cat's personal collection.
What's your point here?
What do you want to prove?
That the war is justified?
Or that the people who leaved in Iraq in the past and their contribution are of no significance?
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