Russian TV in the service of Iraqi Information Ministry

[Bereta_Eder]

well those children and people didnt NEED to die from your bombs. its as simple as that.

[Arrian]

There is a wonderful tool known as the "ignore list."

For those of you attempting to fight the good fight with Pattycakes, I strongly urge you to use it. It's much better than beating your head against a wall of garbage.

-Arrian

[Felch]

And the people that Saddam murdered needed to die? If it's as simple as that, well gosh.

[muxec]

US media is much more democratic. Russian media say the words of Putin and Zhirinovsky. Coalition media (CNN for example) shows both glorious american forces and american war protesters. Yes CNN also "adapt" the news, they said for 4 times that americans found chemical weapons and it was wrong.

Interfax(rus) journalist was invited to politocal talk-show on 9th Israeli chanel (russian language chanel of Israel). He was asked: "And what is the situation with international terrorists in Chechnya?". He replied: "There are no terrorists. There are simply bandits and crimes". He was asked " Do you think, that Chechnian people fight for their own independence and liberty?". He answered: "No Chechnians are Russin people".

[muxec]

Israeli 9th chanel is objective enought. It says about fascism racism in Israel both towards russians adn from russians. It reports about Iraq war according own correspondents and according CNN matherials, but it says that CNN's information can be not very objective. Etc. .

[Bereta_Eder]

so felch, you decided to share in Sadam's fun?

you certaintly liberated many from the bonds of life...


US media are much more democratic than russian media?


maybe.

although they certaintly arent very democratic either, you can see the nice brain washing results in this very forum...

BTW, US is supporting Russian in chechnia, funny how in US they label freedom fighetrs and then terrorists the same people...
a joke really by whom noone's conveinced.

[spiritof1202]

Originally posted by paiktis22
considering not only the deplorable state of iraq's army as well as your own bold (and proven false) pretentions, this hs got to be one of the worse wars the US has ever fought...and in big cost for civilian life...
let's see what comes next

It simply takes a while to kill/capture/cause to desert a hundred thousand or so Iraqi troops.

I'd like for you to point out exactly where the strategic failures have been for the Coalition, and where the strategic successes have been for the Iraqi's.

Its been a fabulous and especially well executed plan, involving massive coordination of naval, land and air forces, demonstrating precisie and overwhelming force, that simply caused the Iraqi Republican Guard to fold like a cheap suit, after 4 days of bombardment, and 1 day of maneuver warfare.

In terms of civilian losses, its among the best, if not the best in recent history, involving national armies.

Certainly, you could argue that the Coalition has SAVED lives, by mitigating deaths that have happened and would continue to happen, under Saddam's rule.

[spiritof1202]

Originally posted by paiktis22
the only truth in the above is simply the recognition that US troops have been kicked harder in the behind that they ever imagined...

Less than 200 casualties, facing 500 thousand Iraqi troops?

Define how thats "kicked hard"

[Imran Siddiqui]

Hmmm, American troops are in Baghdad in about 2 weeks. That's a failure?

Then again, Pattycakes still believes the Iraqi Information Minister that the Iraqis still have Baghdad Airport. One wonders what drugs he is taken. I mean, really, there is a anti-Americanism and then there is anti-Americanism.

[The Mad Monk]

When they fight occupying forces, they may be described as freedom fighters.

When they take over a theater and try to kill hundreds of men, women and children, they are properly called terrorists.

[spiritof1202]

Originally posted by paiktis22
so felch, you decided to share in Sadam's fun?

you certaintly liberated many from the bonds of life...

Saddam and the Ba'athists have INTENTIONALLY killed and tortured his own citizens for decades.

The Coalition has made every effort... more than any other army, ever, to avoid civilian casualties, and has been successful in doing so. Unintentional civilian casualties are tragic and regrettable.

Saddam's own military has been less effective in avoiding civilian casualties, by bombarding his own capital with unguided SAM's, and AAA fragments, and by violating the Geneva convention, demanding separation of civilian and military forces.

The difference is simply intent. The Coalition has not intended civilian casualties. Saddam ACTIVELY SEEKS civilian casualties.

[Felch]

Originally posted by paiktis22
so felch, you decided to share in Sadam's fun?

You obviously know a whole lot about us Americans from your unbiased news sources. There's only one thing we like more than killing babies, and that's killing babies for oil.

[spiritof1202]

Originally posted by Felch X


You obviously know a whole lot about us Americans from your unbiased news sources. There's only one thing we like more than killing babies, and that's killing babies for oil.

thats baby oil right?

ahh... and I don't agree with you.

I think we like clubbing baby seals to death more than killing babies for oil

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Felch X


You obviously know a whole lot about us Americans from your unbiased news sources. There's only one thing we like more than killing babies, and that's killing babies for oil.

Which is how we produce 'baby oil', FYI. Though, we have to kill A LOT of babies in order to get sufficient stockpiles of them to last us through the lulls between wars...

[Felch]

Sweet sweet baby oil. And no Paiktis, you can't have any, until you stop trusting your unbiased news sources and come over to the dark side.