Well, it finally happened...

[Ben Kenobi]

was it right? no. is assault ever justified? no. do i regret what i did? no. I know i'm wrong, I know i'm not the victim, but i feel NO remorse for this. he can go to hell for all i care.

Then your apology will be meaningless...

Uber, if you really believe that assault is never justified, then you should feel remorse. That's the way it works. Otherwise, what you are really saying is that assault is justified in some cases, such as this one.

[Inverse Icarus]

no, i know i'm wrong, but i'm not ashamed i did it. i know i am on the wrong side of the law here, and i know i should be punished, but i'm saying i feel no remorse at all.

[raghar]

Well I listened about a girl that kicked a boy to his balls, becose she was currious how he would act. I'm unsure if it was even reported to teacher.

Where are you living? Land of the sued? Next time try the balls. No lasting injuries you know. Just some danger talk after...

Have you listened? He hit him to his balls.
Why?
Becouse he offered him date.
He is homosexual too??? I never knew.

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by PLATO1003
A lot will have to do with what you felt his intent was when he grabbed your hand.
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Taking his hand after the advance was reject is the same crime, battery (often labeled assault in criminal statutes), as hitting someone (but of lesser injury), it may be exacerbated becasue of the sexual context.

[DRoseDARs]

Bah, I don't have the time or patience to read through 4 pages of posts to see what's been said.

Find the school's Legal aid if they have it and use it. He shouldn't have grabbed your hand after your refusal (sexual harasment?) and you shouldn't have slugged him (assault resulting in further injury above and beyond original action?).

Me = gay. If it was me and I likewise wasn't interested in this individual and he grabbed my hand after my refusal, I too would probably have slugged him if he persisted (or b*tch-slapped him ) because I don't appreciate people touching me without clear prior permission (platonic gestures). And no, I wasn't held much as a child; physical contact takes time for me to be comfortable with on an individual basis.

I hope things turn out survivable for you Uber. You're not an *sshole in my eyes, you just over-racted to the situation and he got physically hurt more than you had intended.

*Sigh* Good luck, Uber. Hope the best for ya' in this...


EDIT: "...and you should have slugged him..."? That should be "...shouldn't have..."

[Spiffor]

Uber : Did the guy already begin anything before the law ? Did his group react vividly to the situation ?
If yes, you should go to an association of sexual harasment's male victims in your area (or something like that). The legal advice from your uni sure is good, but it won't be enough if an influent gay organization decides to attack you as an example.

[Frankychan]

Uber,

What you could argue is that he instigated the altercation between you two by sexually harassing you. The fact that he grabbed your hand and implied sexual orientation could swing in your favor that he was sexually harassing you. You could argue that you reacted the only way you felt you could at that time.

Unfortunately, you DID hit him and this is unavoidable. Depending whether or not this other guy decides to make a big hoopla over this, your school's administration could be pressured to side with him. As far as I can see, you probably will be charged with assault (maybe aggravated). But, if you can somehow argue that you were sexually harassed, you might be able to avoid harsher penalties.

I hope you beat this.

[Japher]

As far as I can see, you probably will be charged with assault (maybe aggravated).

You could argue it as a crime of passion... If you don't mind bending the truth...

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Japher


Or grab them and ensure them that they are attracted to each other... Man, that has got to be one of the worse things that could happen to a homophobe... Apart from Deliverence...

[the distant sound of a banjo is audible]

[Agathon]

You know, people shouldn't be too hard on UK - at least he isn't Fred Phelps.

[Kramerman]

Re: Well, it finally happened...

Originally posted by UberKruX
... I was involved in what will be construed as a hate crime.

Here's the scenario:

I was comming out of my Methods of Reasoning class, where we just did some group work. This kid, Chad, who I've known to a limited degree, was in my group and seemed geniunely interested in my opinions about the evolution of Artificial Intelligence. Anyway, the class ended, and everyone got up to leave, and Chad goes up to me and asks me out. I say, as politely as possible, "oh, dude, i'm not gay".

then he takes my left hand and says "are you sure?" with this innuendo filled look on his face.

so i punched him in the face with my free right hand. the kid fell down hit a radiator, has a nice gash on the side of his face. The professor called Public Saftey and detained me until they arrived. I have an appointment this Friday to go in front of the school's judicial board, and theres always the chance that he could press criminal charges.

ugh. anyone knowlegable in the law have anything i can use in my defense, especially if they make this out to be a hate crime? apparently the kid is a big player in the schools "Pride Alliance", the gay club on campus. double ugh.

Im sry, i tried sooo hard to keep a straight face, but the image of Uber just slugging a guy in this situation was quite comical to me... for some reason...



oh my... uber, what shall you do... Id go the way of if he presses charges, threaten to accuse him of sexual harassment.

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by UberKruX
no, i know i'm wrong, but i'm not ashamed i did it. i know i am on the wrong side of the law here, and i know i should be punished, but i'm saying i feel no remorse at all.

I wouldnt either. If i made it clear to anyone to get away, gay or not, and they pressed on, I wouldnt hesitate to do what you did ... maybe thats why i have no friends...

[red_jon]

Originally posted by nationalist


Standard gay claim. I highly doubt that that is true. I bet that most straight men are "homophobes" (terrible term) to some extent. Just because you have a prejudice, it doesn't mean that you are fighting against that prejudice inside yourself.

That's the same as claiming that most white racists are actually black deep down inside.

I'm not kidding - I didn't believe it myself but I've seen a few examples myself IRL.

The most recent was the guy who used to be in my sociology class - he was the noly one in the class debating homosexuality was wrong.

A couple of months later, after we'd finished college he was in a club. And he came onto me and my gay friend James.

People who are repressed want to distance themselves with gay people in order to 'prove' to others and themselves they are not gay. And to them the best way to do that is to act homophobic.

I'm not aying all homophobes are closet cases- but many of them are.

[Stuie]

It's university judicial board day for Uber.

We want all the details, Uber!!

[curtsibling]

Perhaps this will show the thread starter that in life, sometimes a witty put-down is better than a violent reaction.

Oh well, a bit late now, eh?