I agree with Rothy's post.
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. The kid will now seek to make an example out of uber, if they throw the book at uber then the kid will feel that HE is the normal one and that it's acceptable to make advances on other guy's.
Azazel: Yes the gay guy touched Uberkrux (god knows why)
I believe both ppl in this case were out of line. What should be done? Krux should go to anger management, since his first reaction to a threatening situation is to sock some one. The other guy should be forced to work in a rape counciling course, so that he can see what type of ends his actions can lead to.
I probably would of done the same thing, so, here's a defense; you are suppose to feel safe on campus, it is a learning environment, not a singles bar... When he grabed your hand and ensured you that you were wrong, and that you were in fact gay, you become scared for your safety and reacted accordingly.
The guy forced himself on you, and you prevented yourself from undo comfort and perhaps further ongoing discomfort if the guy continued to force himself on you. He was definitly more wrong, and is trying to make a fuss out of it to have a flag to wave.
(At least you can be assured that no gay guy will ever hit on you again.)
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Well the first thing I would do is get legal advise from somewhere. I think that hitting him though was not such a bright Idea but that is in the past now.
I would do is say the reason you hit him was because he made unwanted sexal advances towards you and got affraid of something along those lines.
The other Student I think went over the line too with grabing your hand when you said no.
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stuie... props on that pic
a lil more photoshopping skill to blend, and you got it
anyway, i'm going to talk to some lawyers on wednesday, and i have class again with him on friday. fun fun fun.
there were several witnesses, but none of them were looking directly at us at the time, a couple of kids were talking to the professor about their scores on a recent paper. i'm not sure if they saw his advance, put i'm sure they saw my punch. I'll have to go and ask them exactly what they remember.
My Methods of Reasoning professor is going to have a feild day with this. not only the issue at hand, but the eye witness stuff. we just covered material on "constructed perception", how an eye witness can be made to believe they saw something they didn't. fun fun fun.
re: being a homophobe might mean i'm gay: no. i have honestly questioned my own sexuality a year ago, and i'm not gay. I have never expirimiented or anything (gay OR straight), so i have no physical proof, but after 9/11/01 i did some major soul searching, and thats one of the things i covered. i'm fairly sure i'm not gay in any way shape or form.
we'll see what happens on friday."I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
- Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card
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Originally posted by Daz
Crap. Where is this world going to...?
The man is right. Sue him before he sues you!
He should know better than grabbing a mans hand
NO means NO.
Cant help it. its so damn funny........"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
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Originally posted by nationalist
Standard gay claim. I highly doubt that that is true.
That's the same as claiming that most white racists are actually black deep down inside.
I'm not saying all homophobes are gay (many of them are just plain morons), but a good portion of them are, or at least bi/bi-curious and don't want to admit it."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Originally posted by Stuie
I think this is the root of Uber's problem....
To be honest, I'm wondering if the boy who hit on Uber was doing it as a joke.
Maybe one of his friends thought it'd be funny..."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Originally posted by Asher
To be honest, I'm wondering if the boy who hit on Uber was doing it as a joke.
Maybe one of his friends thought it'd be funny...
2. qhat would you think if it was flipped the other way? if a straight guy hit on a gay guy because he thought it would be funny?"I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
- Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card
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I hope at least that you are able to grow from this situation, and not resort immediatly to childish defense mechanisms. As a child, someone makes fun of you or something, often the instinct is to hit them to make it stop. As an adult, you should be able to realize that your actions will have consequences, and therefore should think before acting."I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
^ The Poly equivalent of:
"I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite
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err Uber, why did you punch him in the face....?
sure he took liberties, grabbing your hand and saying "are you sure?" but you shouldn't have done that.
the whole thing is kind of funny though
I hope you don't get into too much trouble for that, but IMHO you should check those tendencies of yours(the violent tendencies)
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Originally posted by UberKruX
1. the kids barely knew me
2. qhat would you think if it was flipped the other way? if a straight guy hit on a gay guy because he thought it would be funny?
All I'm saying is, from what you described on this forum about you and your friends, it wouldn't surprise me if they got this guy to ask you out and now won't talk about it since you took it a little too far."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Originally posted by UberKruX
stuie... props on that pic
a lil more photoshopping skill to blend, and you got it"Stuie has the right idea" - Japher
"I trust Stuie and all involved." - SlowwHand
"Stuie is right...." - Guynemer
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Originally posted by Asher
He doesn't have to know you, one of your friends could have asked him to.
That would also be pretty funny.
All I'm saying is, from what you described on this forum about you and your friends, it wouldn't surprise me if they got this guy to ask you out and now won't talk about it since you took it a little too far."I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
- Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card
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