Well, it finally happened...

[C0ckney]

ah ok, my bad.

[Pekka]

HMm,, it could be quite a defense to yell 'I have AIDS! Hit me! Hit me!'
Just came my mind as someone pointed out the possibility of infections if you hit someone.

[Cookie Monster]

Maybe we can all learn from this. Sometimes people can get carried away and act during a time of high emotion. We are all guilty of doing things during a period of heated emotion that we regret later. The trick is learning to act after having a chance to calm down. More often than not one will act quite differently when calm.

Good luck Uber, I hope things don't get ugly for you and I hope that you've learned from this. I know that I have. I've never hit anyone unless they hit me first. I've had gay men flirt with me before and even though I'm not gay I consider it as a compliment. If you feel comfortable with yourself you can look at anyone who is coming on to you as a compliment.

True this guy grabbed your hand and violated your space but I know I would have just pulled my hand away and reminded him politely that I wasn't interested. You can always just walk away and let it go......and play Grand Theft Auto Vice City and beat up make believe people and jack their cars and rob stores and, oh sorry got carried away there. The point is find another outlet to release your anger.

[chequita guevara]

Someone grabbing your hand isn't necessarily wrong. He could have been trying to be an aggressive male *****. Straights don't have a monopoly on that. He could also have been acting sincerely, and asking Uber if he really was sure.

The dude was picking up on something in Uber's behavior that led him to believe that Uber might be gay. Since many homophobes are afraid of their own sexuality, it could be that Uber isn't sure yet.

[Az]

Uber. apologize. why should it concern you? I know that being hit on buy a guy is wierd, and the "are you sure?" was uncalled for, but punching him in the nose?

[Alex]

Something similar to this happened to me once. I was in a theater watching "Platoon" (no kidding!) and this guy came and sat beside me. Then he started to ask me things, but I did not notice that he was gay (ok, I was 16 then). Then he asked me if he could hold my hand. I finally noticed that he was gay (doh!) and politely told him: "don't get me wrong, but I'm really not into this gay thing". He just stood up and left. I don't know what I would've done if he asked me "are you sure?", but I'm almost certain that I would not punch him in the face, I'm not a violent person.

[Spec]

Originally posted by Thoth
Have the guy you punched charged with sexual harrasment.

Good! Good answer!

Spec

[Daz]

Crap. Where is this world going to...?

The man is right. Sue him before he sues you!

He should know better than grabbing a mans hand
NO means NO.

Cant help it. its so damn funny........

[Az]

holy crap, that's an ugly smiley, Daz.

[Ozz]

Originally posted by UberKruX [*]I did sock him good ozz .01/10

Go for a legal trial, don't let some university gay PC kangaroo court hang a resume smear on you. If you
get off in a court of law, (and with the right jury, you
will) the university can't smear you, if they do, you can sue their ass but good.

BTW as far as I'm concerned, you were assaulted. I
would have decked the F'ck er too.

[Donegeal]

All these people here saying what you did is wrong are thinking you hit him because he was gay.

Lets keep the premace the same, but change some of the "details".

Lets say Uber was a girl (come on, I know you want to say it)
And this guy was straight.

He goes up to the Ubergirl (hmmmm...) and says something like "Hey, you wanna go catch a drink in the lounge?"
Ubergirl says "No."
guy grabs Ubergirls hand and says "You sure?"
Ubergirl turns and smacks him.

Who's the victem? In Ubers version, alot of you say the guy. In the example I just gave, the majority of you would probably say the Ubergirl and also say that she was justified in doing this. What is the difference!?!?!?

[Sirotnikov]

I also think that both were wrong. Uber over reacted, but the gay guy was obviously stepping over the line.

While I don't approve of what uber has done, I think no means no.

[nationalist]

Originally posted by red_jon
And it may be oversaid, but I have actually found a large number of homophobes to be gay themselves. Maybe you have some cupboard cleaning to do...

Standard gay claim. I highly doubt that that is true. I bet that most straight men are "homophobes" (terrible term) to some extent. Just because you have a prejudice, it doesn't mean that you are fighting against that prejudice inside yourself.

That's the same as claiming that most white racists are actually black deep down inside.

[Worthingtons]

Ok, I'll be diplomatic with my language for Asher's sake.

Anyway, the reason why I, and probably so many other's are defending Uber is to do with the fact I know he will be charged for a crime far more serious than it actually was. I can sympathise with Uber because I can imagine the kind of group the other kid belonged to, because some homosexual’s are so conscious about themselves they will go to any length to pass off their behaviour as normal (Yes, I know the flames will come for this, and I'm not saying 'normality' is a goal we should strive for anyway, but homosexuality doesn’t really fit in the normal category) and these such people will go to any length to satisfy their aim. The kid will now seek to make an example out of uber, if they throw the book at uber then the kid will feel that HE is the normal one and that it's acceptable to make advances on other guy's. In a way this is simply enforcing one's ideology on others - something most contradictory lefties make a living out of.

I post on another forum which I run, and there's a guy there who has recently just 'come out' to being bisexual. Instead of desperately trying to pass this off as the norm and condemning non-acceptance he acknowledges the different levels of acceptance in society, and when approaching guys takes a different stance; instead of being direct and arrogantly assuming the other person accepts you're views, seeks to discover their orientation and perceptions towards homosexuality before making an approach, this kind of attitude will help him not only avoid violent rejections but offending other people like uber who need not be approached.

[SpencerH]

I think that if you apologise that there is an implicit admonision of guilt unless you phrase it 'just right'. You may be facing civil or criminal charges in the future so you have to decide the value of an apology that may allow you to avoid the repurcussions altogether but which may act against you in court at a later date.

If he grabbed your hand (and there are witnesses to that) you may have a hope of a defense but my advice is to seek real legal advice.