Women in the Military?

[Lancer]

We've now had 2 women killed or captured in Iraq. The US has determined that no women should serve in combat units, for their own safety. To me, this is because men are the 'combat models', if you will, of the human race. Women have other strengths.

The political correctness of the '70s and early '80s culminated in women in the armed services, but not combat roles. Some few women wanted to do everything that men do, like that's something to be aspired to. In the first Gulf war, 9% of all women to be deployed to thre Gulf became pregnant. This is far above the usual percentage, (Below 1%, though I don't recall the exact #) and due to avoiding deployment to a war zone. I guess that's not playing anymore, and not to be aspired to. These women occupied technical non-combat rolls. They had to be replaced last minute by inexperienced, untrained personel. That's not good and may well have cost the lives of men serving in combat. Sure, that's my own speculation. However, in the military, training is everything, I know, and that's NOT speculation. It's not good enough that 91% went. When you train 10 people to do a job, it's not good enough that 9 show, not THIS job.

So now we have at least one woman POW in Iraq. Well God help her, because we can't. I want to kill em all and get her out. Can't do that.

Question is, wtf is she doing there in the first place? Can't we roll back the silly **** that allowed her to be there?

It's not a game anymore...

[red_jon]

They'll be driving next!

[Traianvs]

Nowadays regular combat with high tech equipment negates the lesser strength of women a bit, so I see them capable of fighting actually.

Everybody can fire a gun...

[Ben Kenobi]

Where's the banana option?

[Flubber]

While I am old fashioned enough to hate the idea of a woman POW more than a man POW on many levels, I still choose that women should have the right to fill any military role--combat or non combat. Equality does not only apply to pleasant or fun things.

[FrustratedPoet]

Sure, whatever... why not? If they want to volunteer that's fair enough, I won't stop them. It's a free country.

[Lancer]

Obiwan, I see a banana option. I see a banana option big as the Old Northwest. You could cut the frigging Oregon Trail across that banana option.

[Traianvs]

Yeah, you'd have to really do an effort to not seeing the banana option

[C0ckney]

@ lancer's last post

i really don't like the idea of women in combat, but i don't see any problem with non-combat roles.

[Lancer]

Rally troops! We're only trailing by one! Roll back the PC BS!

[Ben Kenobi]

Obiwan, I see a banana option. I see a banana option big as the Old Northwest. You could cut the frigging Oregon Trail across that banana option.

It's so big, I can no longer tell that it is a banana...

[RGBVideo]

They'll be driving next

Repeat. This thread is oxymoron.

[Skanky Burns]

If they choose to be in combat, sure, why not?

And its not like the women were the only ones "at fault" for getting pregnant.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Re: Women in the Military?

Originally posted by Lancer

The political correctness of the '70s and early '80s culminated in women in the armed services, but not combat roles.

Might want to check your history books a little, babe. BTW, something close to 100 women in military service were casualties in Viet Nam.

Some few women wanted to do everything that men do, like that's something to be aspired to.

Did you take a poll, and find out it was a few? Maybe while asking 'em to get you another beer? Damn, that they should define themselves what they individually aspire to. Next thing you know, they'll want men's jobs, to go out of the house without a male relative present, even to run for political office? What's a good Moslem to do? Yes, we men must protect our women from being misguided and led into the temptation to stray from the path that Allah has ordained for them.

In the first Gulf war, 9% of all women to be deployed to thre Gulf became pregnant.

Source?

This is far above the usual percentage, (Below 1%, though I don't recall the exact #) and due to avoiding deployment to a war zone.

Glad you asked the reason.

I guess that's not playing anymore, and not to be aspired to.

I guess you're speculating, but that's ok, women need men to tell 'em how to think straight.

These women occupied technical non-combat rolls. They had to be replaced last minute by inexperienced, untrained personel.

So they all got knocked up at the last minute, and then we had nobody else at all in those same MOS's - we had to take civvies, and 11-Bravos, and all sorts of people with no training whatsoever to replace those hordes of knocked-up women. In fact, we have no reserves, no "fat" in the CSS side of the military despite that's where almost 90% of personnel are.

That's not good and may well have cost the lives of men serving in combat. Sure, that's my own speculation.

In other words, I don't have a clue, so I'll make up an argument that the supposed lack of some REMF somewhere 300 miles in some some rear area made that stray Iraqi round suddenly more accurate, or cause my own forces to fire on me. It's not the enemy, it's not fratrical incidents, it's those damn women not knowing their place.

It's not good enough that 91% went. When you train 10 people to do a job, it's not good enough that 9 show, not THIS job.

Assuming that's the number, they were replace in MOS, and every organization in the military from a rifle squad to a mess hall and everything else you can name plans to function around losses and personnel shortages, for whatever reason. Nice way to take a cheap shot at the best performing army in American history, so you do your "oh, let's protect the little women by keeping them in their places where they belong" routine.

So now we have at least one woman POW in Iraq. Well God help her, because we can't.

We had one there last time, too. Plus men. We had women POW's of the Japanese in WW2 and the NK forces as well.

Question is, wtf is she doing there in the first place?

Uh, serving her country as she chose?

Can't we roll back the silly **** that allowed her to be there?

Yeah - let those *****es out of the kitchen and the bedroom, let 'em vote for God's sakes, and just LOOK what happens.

[Gangerolf]

Many countries allow women in combat functions. I don't want to sound like a PC-monkey, but I do think that some women are as qualified as men. Of course their success depends on whether the men in the platoon or whatever respect their female collegues (or vice versa).