Coalition grows. Old Europe still pouting.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by BeBro


Well, to be fair, calling Germany a major military power today is not really correct. Generally, our military was not only constantly reduced during the last decade, it is also under-equipped and lacks financial support...

But its ever so slightly more powerful than QATAR and CYPRUS

[ranskaldan]

Originally posted by BeBro


Well, to be fair, calling Germany a major military power today is not really correct. Generally, our military was not only constantly reduced during the last decade, it is also under-equipped and lacks financial support...

Granted.

On the other hand, the US maintains thousands of troops in Germany. German opposition to an American war isn't exactly something America can ignore.

[vee4473]

Saddam keeps giving the entire world the finger with every resolution he violates.

Yet, some keep defending him..amazing.

Saddam has actually presented an effective strategy for dictators...

String along the UN and the world for long enough , and the span of time will ease memories to the point where no one really cares about what originally happened to cause the conflict in the first place.

And those that try to point it out, will be the ones condemned.

Saddam is a master at survival. I don't deny that. But his time is over.

[BeBMan]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000


But its ever so slightly more powerful than QATAR and CYPRUS

Well, I think we could hold them at bay

[Lincoln]

Actually I think the truth of the matter is that France and the United States were both using the UN for their own purposes. The US finally decided it could no longer us it.

[ranskaldan]

Originally posted by vee4473
Saddam keeps giving the entire world the finger with every resolution he violates.

Yet, some keep defending him..amazing.

Saddam has actually presented an effective strategy for dictators...

More and more people in the world fear America far more than they fear Iraq.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Lincoln
Actually I think the truth of the matter is that France and the United States were both using the UN for their own purposes. The US finally decided it could no longer us it.

What Lincoln said. Nobody cared about the sanctity of the UN or crap like that. It was all a power play.

[vee4473]

and by the way guys,

I don't really have a problem with anyone who genuinely opposes the war, but to forget the reasons why we are at this point or to blame it on the US smacks of pure unobjective america hating.

If thats your thing, at least be honest about it.


Why has no one here paused their US bashing long enough to even CONTEMPLATE the responsibility that saddam has in all of this?????

As if the US president just woke up one day and thought to himself "let's blow away iraq for no reason"...

"I want to alienate the world...yeah! I'm not trying to protect my country from a terrorist state..."

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by vee4473
Saddam keeps giving the entire world the finger with every resolution he violates.

Yet, some keep defending him..amazing.

Saddam has actually presented an effective strategy for dictators...

String along the UN and the world for long enough , and the span of time will ease memories to the point where no one really cares about what originally happened to cause the conflict in the first place.

And those that try to point it out, will be the ones condemned.

Saddam is a master at survival. I don't deny that. But his time is over.

*COUGH COUGH* LIBYA, EGYPT, ISRAEL *COOOOOOUGH COUGH*

Even larger violators of the UN, Israel being the largest with 33.

Iwonder who learned from who

[vee4473]

Originally posted by ranskaldan


More and more people in the world fear America far more than they fear Iraq.

Why? because we dare to protect ourselves or be the ones to hold the UN to it's own resolutions??

for pete's sake.. if you hate america, just say it.

don't be veiled.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by vee4473
Why has no one here paused their US bashing long enough to even CONTEMPLATE the responsibility that saddam has in all of this?????

Oh yeah, Saddam has responsibility all right.

But your much funner to troll

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by vee4473


Why? because we dare to protect ourselves

:lol Does Iraq border the US? If not, then I really dont think we need to fear them

Pakistan <-----Largest proliferator of nuclear materials
N Korea ------Rouge regieme WITH nukes.

or be the ones to hold the UN to it's own resolutions??

Israel......I keep mentioning Israel.

[ranskaldan]

Originally posted by vee4473
and by the way guys,

I don't really have a problem with anyone who genuinely opposes the war, but to forget the reasons why we are at this point or to blame it on the US smacks of pure unobjective america hating.

If thats your thing, at least be honest about it.

A lot of us don't hate America per se. We're just laughing at the stupidity how America is making it easy for the entire world to hate them.

Why has no one here paused their US bashing long enough to even CONTEMPLATE the responsibility that saddam has in all of this?????

All of what?

As if the US president just woke up one day and thought to himself "let's blow away iraq for no reason"...

"I want to alienate the world...yeah! I'm not trying to protect my country from a terrorist state..."

And Iraq was responsible for which act?

[ranskaldan]

Originally posted by vee4473


Why? because we dare to protect ourselves or be the ones to hold the UN to it's own resolutions??

for pete's sake.. if you hate america, just say it.

don't be veiled.

We are merely trying to be helpful by pointing out that your bullying tactics aren't working too well.

The point isn't even about Saddam any more. It's about America treating the rest of the world with contempt and arrogance. They were NOT doing that in the first Gulf War; not even in Kosovo.

[vee4473]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000


*COUGH COUGH* LIBYA, EGYPT, ISRAEL *COOOOOOUGH COUGH*

Even larger violators of the UN, Israel being the largest with 33.

Iwonder who learned from who

ok, Tassadar, you showed your hand.

You hate israel and therefore, by default , hate the US.

so you can't have an objective discussion.
thats ok, but be honest about it.


thanks for the clarification.


sitting here bashing the us as if you don't have a hidden agenda.

please