Coalition grows. Old Europe still pouting.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Why are you attacking Ran's country, rather than his arguments ?

That's what we one-trick ponies do. We bring up whatever mistakes a country has made and use them to question the motives of whatever action that country is currently undertaking. This covers up the distinct lack of evidence and logic behind our arguments...

Thanks for the clear answer.

[The Mad Monk]

You should be weeping for America. Arrogance killed Rome and Persia, imperial China and the Ottomans. I guess human nature will never change.

It was arrogance? I always thought it was complacency.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
It was arrogance? I always thought it was complacency.

I don't know the meaning of complacency, but if it means "believing in your own intrinsic superiority without questioning yourself", I completely agree with you.

[Willem]

Originally posted by ranskaldan
It's about America treating the rest of the world with contempt and arrogance.

America or George W. Bush? There is a difference!

[Drake Tungsten]

Most of the contempt in the world seems to be directed at the United States, not emanating from it...

[RGBVideo]

Afghanistan

D'uh.

Albania

Still the poorest country in Europe because of Hoxha, basically a dump, butt-licking US to get economic support, which pretty obvious if you know details about the country.

Australia

Same as UK, except that some people actually support the war.

Azerbaijan

Neighbour of Georgia, same reasons apply

Bulgaria

Giving US foreign support to gain, in contrary, support from US. This is the case in many eastern Europe countries, which are in a marginal position, with an devastation economic conditions.

Colombia

Drugs. Civil war.

the Czech Republic

Czech leader doesn't have any support from his people... contrary, the nation's pretty stabile and in good condition, not just trying to butt-lick US.

Denmark

I'm impressed, to be honest.

El Salvador

In terms of land area, a tiny country in the Latin America.

Eritrea

This nation is in full-scale civil war, isn't it?

Estonia

Giving US foreign support to gain, in contrary, support from US.

Ethiopia

I'm not 100% certain of Eritrea, but THIS nation is in a full-scale civil war.

Georgia

US Troops in the area, trying to lick US butts to get US troops to lessen the Russian effect.

Hungary

Same reasons as in Bulgaria

Italy

Berlusconi is a corrupted criminal. I think we all understand what a joke he is. Anti-war demonstrations have dragged millions to the streets.

Japan, South Korea

W00t.

Latvia, Lithuania

Giving US foreign support to gain, in contrary, support from US.

Macedonia

A different reasons, varying from the same reasons as in Albania and eastern Europe.

the Netherlands

W00t.

Nicaragua

Latin American, unstable country.

the Philippines

Licking US butt to gain some troops to upkeep the despotism in the area.

Poland

W00t.

Romania

Not surprised, this is the most typical eastern European country.

Slovakia

W00t.

Spain

Same reasons as in UK.

Turkey

I haven't gathered enough information to talk about this case.

United Kingdom

People oppose the war, PM has been commited to support Bush.

and Uzbekistan

Small, marginal country near China and Russia. Guess what the reason is.


Anyway, that leaves us with:
Afganistan, Australia, Denmark, Czech rep, Japan, Netherlands, Poland, Slovakia, UK, Spain and Turkey.
Possibly Eritrea and South Korea.
EDIT: Added one country which I forgot. Hmmh.

[notyoueither]

W00t? Japan, Korea, and the Netherlands count for less than whom?

You oppose democracy because someone disagrees with you? Curious. Do you have a clue what the point is?

[Drake Tungsten]

I'm pleasantly suprised that the Dutch are on board; I thought they would puss out like their French, German and Belgian neighbors. I apologize for lumping them in with such a distasteful crowd. Sorry, Netherlands. Thanks for the support...

[RGBVideo]

W00t? Japan, Korea, and the Netherlands count for less than whom?

Brain malfuction. Rephrase.

You oppose democracy because someone disagrees with you? Curious. Do you have a clue what the point is?

Actually, no.
It was directed directly to him, should've used pm. If you would know about our posts to each other in the past, then... ok, suppose you have a point

[Drake Tungsten]

Canada is pouting as well...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/news/2003/03/20/anthem_booed_ap/index.html?cnn=yes

Fittingly, the American team won...

[notyoueither]

Oh frack! Not the anthem crap again.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Spiffor
I don't know the meaning of complacency, but if it means "believing in your own intrinsic superiority without questioning yourself", I completely agree with you.

That's a part of it. They became so sure of their own invulnerability they no longer worked at it. the Romans relied upon mercenaries whose loyalty could purchased more and more as time went on -- unti lit was too late; the Chinese became so enamored of their own technological superiority they longer made scientific advancements. In each case, the power in question lulled itself to sleep, content in its own greatness, until it became soft.

[Lord Merciless]

Originally posted by Spiffor
I don't know the meaning of complacency, but if it means "believing in your own intrinsic superiority without questioning yourself", I completely agree with you.

You both are right: a great empire will fall because both of its complacency and arrogance. Complacency destroys its inherent strength and competitiveness, while arrogance blinds it from obvious threat. If we Americans are arrogant, you Europeans are the complacent ones.

[Az]

You should be weeping for America. Arrogance killed Rome and Persia, imperial China and the Ottomans. I guess human nature will never change.

Actually, arrogance didn't kill them. lack of technological innovation, a crumbling buraeucracy, internal stife, and the instability of power.

I don't see these things in the US.



People don't give arrogance enough credit these days. It is much better than being overly insecure of yourself.

[Lord Merciless]

Originally posted by Azazel

Actually, arrogance didn't kill them. lack of technological innovation, a crumbling buraeucracy, internal stife, and the instability of power.

I don't see these things in the US.



People don't give arrogance enough credit these days. It is much better than being overly insecure of yourself.

More like complacency. "Bread and Circus", excessive welfare, overtaxation, and bureaucratization will destroy even the greatest civilizations.