Man arrested for wearing "Peace" shirt at mall

[Stuie]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
It might be a private property, but it is a public space.

UR:

Anyone that creates a space that draws in the public (as in... we have created a space for some vendors, please come here and shop...) should not be allowed to squash the free expression of ideas within that space as long as said expression is not disruptive. Wearing a shirt that says "Peace" is not disruptive. Yelling "FIRE!!!" in a said space (in absence of said fire) would be disruptive.

[Ben Kenobi]

Tingkai:

beat me to the punch.

Agathon:

Glad to see a prof with a sense of humour.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

I doubt you could establish a nudist space without some sort of special legal permission.

I'm not entirely sure about this, but nudist camps don't have special legal permission. I'm not sure if a mall could say 'clothing optional'. Obviously none have tried.

actually there are ones in Oregon...

well, I guess they are just shirts optional

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

(umm, for men and women)

Jon Miller

[Ramo]

This is certainly wrong, but not illegal.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by axi
So what comes firsts, individual rights or private property?

/me chases protestors away from his front yard with baseball bat

[monkspider]

This is unbelieveable. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. What a world this is.

[Imran Siddiqui]

DD: LoL

But then there are no laws ALLOWING you to supress individual rights in your property. So what comes firsts, individual rights or private property?

Private Property comes first until other rights are proscribed by the government (usually state, but sometimes federal).

It comes from the belief that property is an individual right as well. And then so when you say what comes first property or individual rights, we see it as 'what comes first individual rights or individual rights' .

[SlowwHand]

You want to know what's the funniest?
That man thinks they own land.
Land,was here, and will be here, when all of man is gone.
We may legally possess, but we own nothing.

[monkspider]

That was pretty wise Sloww.

[SlowwHand]

Well, thanks.
I have my moments, when I'm not setting out smoke screens.

[Straybow]

Originally posted by Agathon
Can some one tell me why I don't feel "free" when I'm in the US or talking to people from there?

Maybe it depends on whether you choose to talk like an uninformed schmuck. I don't hang around OT much so I don't know about your case for sure. I know that the uninformed are usually tolerated around here until they prove incorrigible in their ignorance.

Can some one tell me why large tracts of the country are overrun with religious lunatics who want to legislate interference into others' private lives?

What does religion have to do with this example?

Can someone explain to me the psychology of someone who would even presume to throw someone out of a semi-public place for wearing a political slogan which wasn't an incitement to hatred?

I don't see a picture of the shirt in the article. It might be inflamatory. Heck, to many conservatives the "peace sign" itself is inflamatory. Reminds them of smelly, lice-infected, drug-addled 60s throwbacks. How many "peace" rallies over the decades turned into violence and looting?

I don't get it.

"Give peace a chance." We did, and Saddam kicked the inspectors out. He will not change unless threatened by force, and might not change until that force is used. This is proven beyond any reasonable doubt.

Protesting is emotional, not rational. The protestors are messing with peoples' feelings, and heading for trouble. An extreme reaction by security, to be sure; I prefer to ignore things like that.

[Shi Huangdi]

"But then there are no laws ALLOWING you to supress individual rights in your property. So what comes firsts, individual rights or private property?"

Lets all start an-axi protest in axi's front yard

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Agathon
The fact that anyone would even dream of doing something like this shows that the US is not a free country.

So in your ideal free country, people wouldn't be free to dream?

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Agathon
Can some one tell me why I don't feel "free" when I'm in the US or talking to people from there?

Sounds like an issue for you and your therapist to work on. People can't take away your freedom by merely engaging you in conversation, that is your problem.