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Some people reject it, but the Protestant work ethic is very real even today.
DuncanK, surely they are non-Protestants who also behave this way. In what sense is this work ethic 'Protestant?' as opposed to Catholic, or some other denomination?
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Originally posted by Iron Chancellor
What does Luxemburg make or do, other than postage stamps? (No offense to Luxemburgers)
Live off the interest from dirty secret Nazi trust funds.
Oh wait, that's Switzerland.
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I like how you can characterize greed as protestant and get away wit hit, but imagine using the phrase "crazy as a Muslim" or "thrifty like a Jew"; not that I condone the use of any of them, but THINK before you use a term that makes a gross generalization of peoples.
Originally posted by Iron Chancellor
I like how you can characterize greed as protestant and get away wit hit, but imagine using the phrase "crazy as a Muslim" or "thrifty like a Jew"; not that I condone the use of any of them, but THINK before you use a term that makes a gross generalization of peoples.
First of all I didn't say there was anything wrong with being thrifty. The protestants in this country historically taught there children that people were poor by no ones fault but their own, and that if they couldn't take care of themselves than it was gods will that they should parish. We really are still stuck with that faulty logic.
If you want to just disregard the fact that protestantism teaches individualism that's your choice, but you won't see things clearly until you do so.
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I hate to get into a theological discussion, and will not, but while Protestantism does put emphasis on individual faith primarily and good deeds secondly, however, I haven't heard you say anything about the Red Cross or Salvation Army, to name the most well known, groups founded by Protestants to help those in poverty.
If your disagreeing with me that American society is individualistic, than I give you a big WHAT EVER!
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Why is that a bad thing? Forming a collectivist culture doesn't appeal to me.
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Yes, Americans tend to be highly individualistic. There's a streak that runs a mile deep, and I believe that to be an exceedingly good thing.
There is also a great deal of generosity in this nation. The groups mentioned above are but a handful of a truly *staggering* number of outreach groups founded by those evil Protestants to help those less fortunate.
To deny this is to turn a blind eye to the truth.
The Protestant ethic you complain about runs counter to your beliefs. You would rather see human beings behave more like bees or ants. Communal in their nature.
The problem with this approach is that greed cannot be suppressed. People are....greedy. They WANT stuff.
They want their work to count for something, and they want their effort to be rewarded.
Communism reduces everybody to the lowest common denominator, which works very much against the notion of individual hard work leading to individual gain.
That is, at the core of it, why it has failed so spectacularly in the past, and why it will continue to fail if attempted again.
Well, that, plus the fact that people have natural ambition, and a communist utopia (if one could ever exist) would quickly fall prey to the power of ambitious men.
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Americans believe in classism and elitism. That's the bad part about indivildualism. Of course there is a good part about individualism. That is taking initiative etc.... I wasn't talking about that. That exists in all cultures.
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"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran Siddiqui
I don't believe that Americans believe in classism. Not the TRUE americans, that is. The american spirit, is supposedly the spirit of the outback. Of course, with that gone, There is little to hold even that part, which never formed the entire picture, true.
Americans believe that the work of an individual should MEAN something, and that an individual who is willing to apply himself can, through work (both hard AND smart work) succeed, excel, and advance himself.
Some will work harder or smarter, and advance themselves further than others. A side effect of this is "classism" as you put it. Because different efforts equal different results, there will be disparities. The system, however, is designed with numerous ways to level the playing field. If you choose to ignore them, or not take advantage of them, that is your individual choice.
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Originally posted by Velociryx
Americans believe in *work.*
Effort and action.
Americans believe that the work of an individual should MEAN something, and that an individual who is willing to apply himself can, through work (both hard AND smart work) succeed, excel, and advance himself.
Some will work harder or smarter, and advance themselves further than others. A side effect of this is "classism" as you put it. Because different efforts equal different results, there will be disparities. The system, however, is designed with numerous ways to level the playing field. If you choose to ignore them, or not take advantage of them, that is your individual choice.
-=Vel=-
Of course we agree that people should be able to keep what they work for. People should not be elevated to a high class on the backs of hard working people simply because of who their parents are.
We've been around and around this so many times, I say we let this thread go to archive unless someone has a new point.
"When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran Siddiqui
IF you say that people get to keep what they work for, then you acknowlege that superior effort (either harder or smarter work) should be rewarded, and IF that is the case, and at the end of my long life, if I CHOOSE to give the fruits of my labor to my children, WHO ARE YOU to tell me I cannot? Did you work for what I created? No! So if I choose to let my children benefit from it, what concern could it possibly be of yours?
-=Vel=-
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