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  • #76
    Okay, Trent...
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Demerzel
      Plus I believe the EU is cutting emissions down, is the US? you produce something ridicuously high like 25% of the world's polluting emissions for 2% of the population?
      .02 x 6,000,000,000 = 120,000,000.

      Because you are so obviously and irrevocably wrong on our percentage of world population, I am inclined to believe that you pulled both figures out of your ass.

      have a nice day
      "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

      Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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      • #78
        Lancer: Ignore lists do remarkable things to keep the clutter to a minimum.
        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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        • #79
          It's amazing how the US sees things in black and white & good and evil, and then feels it has the right to go on a moral crusade.

          What happened to those morals, when you supported dictators all over the world? How come you didn't remove them and put a democratic regime in instead when you supported Saddam back in the '80s when Iraq fought Iran? Oh, things weren't so black & white then?

          So much hypocritical bs, you either are the good guys and you fight evil or you don't, don't play the crusader card and label us as needing saving by the US when you're quite prepared to ignore dictators and their abuse of power when it suits you.

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          • #80
            And apprantly ignoring people isn't a cure for ignorance.
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #81
              Thanks Dan great thought.
              Long time member @ Apolyton
              Civilization player since the dawn of time

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              • #82
                Oh, things weren't so black & white then?

                We should learn from our mistakes, and not use past mistakes to excuse current inaction. Democracy has always been more powerful than accounted for in the US foreign policy. A more democratic Iraq would be a very valuable force in the Middle East.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior

                  .02 x 6,000,000,000 = 120,000,000.

                  Because you are so obviously and irrevocably wrong on our percentage of world population, I am inclined to believe that you pulled both figures out of your ass.

                  have a nice day

                  ah the joys of a personal attack ( Ming will be interested I'm sure )

                  2% of world population of 8 bn peeps = 0.02 * 6,300,000,000 = 116m.

                  So actually I should have said 4% as that gives 252m Americans ( i thought we were up to over 7bn now ).

                  So its 25% world pollution from 4% of population! gosh my bad.

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                  • #84
                    What happened to those morals, when you supported dictators all over the world? How come you didn't remove them and put a democratic regime in instead when you supported Saddam back in the '80s when Iraq fought Iran? Oh, things weren't so black & white then?
                    Lest we forget, "9/11 changed everything". In other words, because some terrorists came up with an ingeniously simple plan and got pass pis$-poor security in enacting that plan, we have the duty and obligation to swing our d1ck whenever the balance of power falls out of our disfavor.
                    "Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.

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                    • #85
                      A puppet regime in Iraq would be a very valuable force in the Middle East.
                      sorry I got crap on my monitor distorting your words...
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #86
                        It's called the lesser of two evils Demerzel. We supported certain dictators because we felt there would have been a communist dictatorship set up if we didn't. Since communism was/is a horriby oppressive idealogy with world wide pull and a proven history of killing more people then Hitler we felt we had no other choice. Get it?
                        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                        • #87
                          5% is more accurate. America is around 330 million, and the world is about 6.3 billion.

                          edit: that's in response to demerzel. this is a popular thread.
                          Last edited by Jaguar; February 9, 2003, 17:09.
                          "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

                          Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Sava
                            And apprantly ignoring people isn't a cure for ignorance.
                            It's a good way for people to ignore views that make them uncomfortable.

                            I love the way that America was quite happy to talk to the IRA's political wing, when the IRA was bombing N.Ireland and the UK, and only made half-hearted attempts to involve themselves.

                            Any time, we made a move to do something to deal with the IRA, we were the bad guys.

                            I wonder how America would have dealt with it.

                            Let's speculate,

                            America gets bombed by IRA. America bombs Ireland to rubble in retaliation.

                            Nice.

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                            • #89
                              Dem... authoritative conservatives think that dissenting views are "unpatriotic" and "unAmerican".
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • #90
                                It's called the lesser of two evils Demerzel. We supported certain dictators because we felt there would have been a communist dictatorship set up if we didn't. Since communism was/is a horriby oppressive idealogy with world wide pull and a proven history of killing more people then Hitler we felt we had no other choice. Get it?
                                no.
                                urgh.NSFW

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