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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
YES, NO MEANS NO!
Once a woman says no, you stop. You go any futher and you are scum, IMO.
BS, you must not get much. It depends on how it is being said. My wife says no and she means yes and sometimes she says no and she means NO.
edited: wrong quote
"In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
—Orson Welles as Harry Lime
My wife says no and she means yes and sometimes she says no and she means NO.
No always means no. That's final. You might force a woman to later be to tired to say no, so she might give in, but she meant no.
How would you like it if you were with some woman (who didn't look that great) and didn't want to fool around, so you said no, but she attempted to go further to try to 'coerce' you? Would you be happy with that.
NO MEANS NO!
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Who was talking about women raping men? Sexual advances and sexual abuse aren't rape.
1: Men are stronger than wimen
A generalization. Many women are stronger than the average man.
2: It would be rape if they had sex. What? Was he supposed to get a boner out of fear???
You are a guy... are you trying to tell me every time you had an erection, you meant it?
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
2: It would be a rape if they had sex. What? Was he supposed to get a boner out of fear???
Well there's always force-feeding Viagra. Also I don't know about you but I don't have all that much conscious control over what size my friend in my pants feels like being...
My wife says no and she means yes and sometimes she says no and she means NO.
No always means no. That's final. You might force a woman to later be to tired to say no, so she might give in, but she meant no.
How would you like it if you were with some woman (who didn't look that great) and didn't want to fool around, so you said no, but she attempted to go further to try to 'coerce' you? Would you be happy with that.
NO MEANS NO!
I love it when your forceful.
My experience tells me otherwise. No sometimes means yes. Words are ambiguous at best. Ask any lawyer.
"In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
—Orson Welles as Harry Lime
"In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
—Orson Welles as Harry Lime
If no meant no, then seduction would be rape. Romance would be stalking.
Nevermind, the feminazis have already changed those definitions, so I guess you boys are right.
Soldier on, I'm done here.
"In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
—Orson Welles as Harry Lime
You'd think most men would know that by the time they are old enough to start posting here.
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Do you think that is an alien spaceship? If I answer "yes sure it is" then I actually mean "No you ****ing idiot get some sense!"
This type of matter is no different. There is much more to language than words. Sometimes however, it's impossible to know the actual intent and of course then you should play it safe and don't do anything.
Originally posted by Viking Berserk
"Men are perfectly capable of getting an erection even under involuntary conditions, given physical stimulus to the penis."
Well well, I'd say if I get horny I wouldn't call it a rape.
Getting an erection involuntarily doesn't negate the fact that one is being raped.
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