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  • #61
    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    It's not exactly that they think it's ok, but that they think it is normal and should be expected.


    Maybe a decade or so back, but not anymore. No woman I've spoken to considers forced sex 'normal'.
    You may not know any but I know way too many.
    Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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    • #62
      Sure, I understand the power part. The thing I don't understand is, a hetero just can't do it to a man, power or no power. His brain just isn't wired that way.
      Isn't power supposed to be the ultimate turn on? Rape for power is a common theme throughout history. It's commonly seen in prisons. It's even documented in Ancient Egypt where a conquering ruler would symbolically rape the defeated foe. It entered into mythology, the god Set raped Osiris to crush Osiris' power.
      Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
      -Richard Dawkins

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      • #63
        Originally posted by MosesPresley
        JWB was a "rapist". He did deserve what he got, if you think street justice, poetic justice or whatever you want to call it is the way one should conduct themselves in a civilized society. I disagree with that part. My problem is with the double standard. Forced sexual mutilation is abhorrent and is not a laughing matter. Maybe Monty Python in their heyday or somebody else might be able to spin comic gold from this, but that is besides the point. If a man was to make jokes in mixed company about how some soldiers, pick any war, or a serial killer (often they are victims of sexual abuse) sexually mutilated women, he would be villified and ostracized and rightly so. Excusing the women for this callousness plays into the hands of the feminazis. That is the point I was making.
        JWB's own behavior made him a legitimate target for the humor. He was a scumbag who got his comeuppance. I'm sure it was traumatizing to have his penis severed, but he should have thought of that before he went and raped Lorena. Now maybe he knows how traumatized she felt.

        Considering he got his penis back and has made a career off it, I'd say any comedy about it is perfectly fine and justified. He deserved worse, frankly.

        Now if a woman went and mutilated a man unprovoked or hadn't done something as heinous as rape, I'd agree it isn't a laughing matter. But the Bobbitt scenario is a bad example, because the bastard got what he had coming to him. So I'll laugh my ass off at him.
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        • #64
          The ultra-feminists claim that rapists and domestic abusers are the foot soldiers of the patriarch society. But if this were true, rapists would not be hated by all other men.
          So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
          Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Boris Godunov


            JWB's own behavior made him a legitimate target for the humor. He was a scumbag who got his comeuppance. I'm sure it was traumatizing to have his penis severed, but he should have thought of that before he went and raped Lorena. Now maybe he knows how traumatized she felt.

            Considering he got his penis back and has made a career off it, I'd say any comedy about it is perfectly fine and justified. He deserved worse, frankly.

            Now if a woman went and mutilated a man unprovoked or hadn't done something as heinous as rape, I'd agree it isn't a laughing matter. But the Bobbitt scenario is a bad example, because the bastard got what he had coming to him. So I'll laugh my ass off at him.
            Well according to your scenario, if a woman sexually abuses me, then I have the right to cut her breasts off, as long as they are sewn back on and she can make some money off of the deal.
            "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
            —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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            • #66
              some of you guys are under the misconception that all women are "strong" and they all listen to what feminists have to say. Believe me, there are women out there that don't have enough self respect to report when they have been raped. It happens all the time.

              This is absolutely not true. And in the minority community it definately is not true. Not all women are "strong". Not all of them follow the feminist way of life closely. Some women are weak as kittens. Why this is? Well there could be a variety of reasons, one of which is that they were abused as children in some way.

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              • #67
                and might I add what the proof is that Lorena was raped? I believe it happened, but you have to admit there is a chance she was lying about it. The woman was emotionally unstable. Although I grant you she was probably unstable because of what John did to her.

                but you shouldn't go through life always believing what women say. Well except for the No means No part

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                • #68
                  No, certainly doesn't always mean no. That is just a simple platitude for simpletons.
                  "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                  —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by MosesPresley
                    Well according to your scenario, if a woman sexually abuses me, then I have the right to cut her breasts off, as long as they are sewn back on and she can make some money off of the deal.
                    When did I ever say Lorena Bobbitt had a right to do what she did? All I said was that I had a perfect right to laugh at JWB's predicament, because he proved himself an ******* who brought about is own problem. It's why we laugh at the Darwin Awards.

                    If some ***** raped a man and he went and lopped off one of her boobs out of revenge, I'd laugh at her, too. She had it coming.
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                    • #70
                      Boris

                      OK. Point made.
                      "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                      —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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                      • #71
                        No, certainly doesn't always mean no.


                        YES, NO MEANS NO!

                        Once a woman says no, you stop. You go any futher and you are scum, IMO.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #72
                          My girlfriend said no in the first place. One week later, we were going out. She then admitted she had been willing to accept from the beginning. Sometimes, no doesn't mean no, as stupid as it sounds.
                          "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                          "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                          "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                          • #73
                            rape (not statutory) should be a capital crime
                            What's statutory?
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                            • #74
                              Sometimes, no doesn't mean no


                              When you are making out, and she says no... then you stop.

                              You can always try it at some other time, but no means no.

                              You going a week later with someone who said no doesn't mean anything in this deate.
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                              • #75
                                Well according to your scenario, if a woman sexually abuses me, then I have the right to cut her breasts off, as long as they are sewn back on and she can make some money off of the deal.
                                Don't be silly! A woman can't rape a man!
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