Rape Humor

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
You forgot rape is mostly about power, not sex. Hence, the victims, mostly women, are made to suffer and be humiliated. This is not a factor in most other crimes.

No, I haven't forgotten it. In fact, power is the key aspect of all violent crimes. When someone hurts you, it's becuase they are trying to demonstrate power over you. Whether the violence is sexual or not, the end results are frequently the same.

The fact that rape is seen largely as a crime of men against women, in my mind, leads to a paternalistic impulse to protect women, as if all violent crime isn't something especially horrible. Men are just supposed to suck it up, however, and domestic violene isn't as traumatizing to a woman as being rapes.

Violence is violence.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
how does a woman rape a man? I can't wrap my head around that one.

It happened a few years ago here locally.

Apparently the duo (there were two of them) had a knife and waylaid a young man walking in an ally. They wanted satisfaction and threatened his life if he did not perform.

Damned if I know how he lived, but he did.

[David Floyd]

I don't agree. When normal citizens start carrying handguns, bad guys will start carrying submachine guns. It's just an arms race.

It's an arms race up to easily concealable weapons. Once you get past sawed off shotguns and submachine guns, the race is over. And that means if you have to start carrying submachine guns for protection, then by all means do so.

But in any case, how are muggers going to afford submachine guns, and all the ammo they need? I guess they could take to robbing gun shops, but that's not a very good idea, and in any case, your average Uzi is more expensive than your basic Saturday Night Special. And once a few dozen muggers get shot up, then hopefully would-be muggers will look at the percentages and decide it isn't worth it - instead of a jail term IF they're caught, they're likely to get an INSTANT death penalty.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Secondly, how does a woman rape a man? I can't wrap my head around that one. Thirdly, why would a hetero man rape a man? I can't warp my head around that one, either.

Power. It's all about power.

BTW, men being raped by women happens more frequently than people want to believe. These men are especially traumatized, since they are now seen as weaker than women, and their cases are often belittled by the police.

As for the how, I'm sure most of you will be surprised to know that, just as in women, you can be forced to have a sexual response. Women frequently not only lubricate during rape but also have orgasms (which leads to internal humiliation). Men can become sexually aroused against their will or when seriously frightened.

As for why a hetero man would rape another man, it's about power, humiliation, and degradation. A gay friend of mine was gang-raped by a bunch of heteros while he was in San Diego (if he was telling the truth and not making up another story). It's often used as a method of torture. Just cuz you can't rap your head around it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
As for why a hetero man would rape another man, it's about power, humiliation, and degradation. A gay friend of mine was gang-raped by a bunch of heteros while he was in San Diego (if he was telling the truth and not making up another story). It's often used as a method of torture.

I seriously doubt you could call the rapists hetero.

[Dis]

Men who rape women are scum. And they should get life in prison.

But just to be clear there are cases of women having legitimate sex with a man and then later accusing them of rape. So it is possible for a woman to enjoy sex and say she was raped at the same time.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by notyoueither
I seriously doubt you could call the rapists hetero.

They're not doing it for sexual pleasure. In fact, many rapists don't actually have orgasms. Rape is about power, not pleasure. Your general sexual orientation has nothing to do with it.

[notyoueither]

Really?

I've heard of the 'all sex is about power' crap. I don't buy it. I seriously doubt you could get hetro men to take another man up the poop shoot outside of serious deprivation.

Exactly how much 'power' does it give them?

Maybe I am seriously out of touch with the human condition, but I can't see it. Sorry. And if I were out of touch, why does this phenomena not show up in historical primary sources? Is this a new feature of human behaviour?

[Dis]

why do men get raped in prison then?

It isn't about deprivation. Sure they are deprived, but it is a show of power. Prison has its class system that is unique.

[notyoueither]

Bubba wants to get his rocks off. It's all about power relationships? NOT. It's about Bubba not wanting to use his left hand.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Really?

I once had a girl friend who I would fool around with. Once she got off, she'd pull away from me. One time I just lost my temper, and for a split second, I was gonna show her who's boss. Fortunately, I regained my cool, calmed down, and have been beating myself up over it for the last sixteen years.

[Dis]

why would a hetero have sex with another man?

I am pretty desperate right now. I havn't had sex for over a year. And I have a very strong sex drive. But I have never considered having sex with a man.

It's about power.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Dissident
why would a hetero have sex with another man?

I am pretty desperate right now. I havn't had sex for over a year. And I have a very strong sex drive. But I have never considered having sex with a man.

It's about power.

Really?

If it's about some primordial drive for power, why have you not excercised you 'power' over those available to you?

If it is about 'power', wouldn't you use the 'power' you have to get laid?

[Dis]

I do have moral values. And I'm not very large person. Women and definately men would kick my ass.

[notyoueither]

And what the hell is the 'power' about anyway?

Some UniWeenie who could never get laid gets it in his mind that he does not have enough 'power' therefore he has not been laid since before the last century?

So now we have boiled all human sexual relations down to 'men exercising power over their victims'? Bull sheit! That's all there is to that. Period.