Making the friend-to-girlfriend conversion

[Thrawn05]

Oh, and here is a real tip I got from the numerous friends of mine that happen to be women...

Woman hate players. If you don't act like yourself from the start, and your true colors show... they really really really REALLY get p***ed off about that. Just be yourself.

[Solly]

They'll get pissed off but still want to **** you.

[Solly]

"Oh, and here is a real tip I got from the numerous friends of mine that happen to be women..."

Oh, and a proper real tip I've got from you. Don't take advice from women about what theyw ant from guys.

Just learn from guys who are "successful".

[Urban Ranger]

Nah, they like True Players as portrayed by veteran ACS'er ted striker.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by loinburger
Honesty works surprisingly well, I've found. Imagine her reaction if I'd blushed and stammered "Uh, I wasn't looking, uh..." I wouldn't have had a chance in hell.

Sometimes stammering works wonders.

Me: "Um, *cough*, ah, your bra strap is showing."
SO (not my SO then): "Really? Which side?"
Me (points)
SO (does some quick fixing): "Thanks. How long have you noticed it."
Me (turns red): "Hm, ah, ur, eh, um...."
SO (smiles): "That's okay, don't blow your brains" (snuggles up to me) "I like honesty."

[loinburger]

The key is to tell them that their g-string/bra/pubes/whatever are showing, if for no other reason than common courtesy. If my fly is unzipped, I expect somebody to tell me, dammit, rather than let me walk around all day with my fly open.

[Urban Ranger]

Very true.

[DuncanK]

It can't be done. The simple fact that you are her friend means that she is no longer attracted to you. You should have been more open with her from the beginning and let her know how you felt.

[orange]

Originally posted by loinburger
...when a girl was wearing short shorts and no underwear, and a coupla pubes poked out when she sat down...

Sounds like a winner

[Switch]

Originally posted by Felch X
Well, does she know how you feel?

I made this same conversion at that age, and it was tight. We were friends, we went out for a bit, and then we went back to being friends. Things were a little tense since I ditched her at the homecoming dance, but we all got over that stoned mishap.

Same thing happened to me, back in Sept. We met at church, eventually developed a friendship, and then through subtle hints found out she liked me. Fortunately, the feeling was mutual. We went out for 3 months, but we were both too busy to actually keep it feasable, and she called it off. Now we're back to friends.

[Bereta_Eder]

Are 10% of all relationships due to force of personality as opposed to 90 % due to more prudential and shallow concerns such as looks and money? I'd find that hard to believe

Exactly.

Plus it is an epitome to idiocy to believe that every man or woman has the same % in what constitutes the most important aspect for him/her.

Drake needs to get out more and stop getting all his information about relationships from net sites.

[Az]

A wise man once said, a woman will forgive your impulsiveness (caused by her), but will not forgive your coolness.

Take this whatever way you might.

yeah, well, while this is not exactly the case, one certainly must take the bets on the daring side.

Btw, it's not like I can't get a g/f, I simply don't want one. sex? what are hands for, damnit?

Honesty works surprisingly well, I've found. Imagine her reaction if I'd blushed and stammered "Uh, I wasn't looking, uh..." I wouldn't have had a chance in hell.

one would have thought that she'd be to goddamn embarrassed to say anything by herself.

All in all, I think the moral of this thread, like many other apolyton-women-tips thread is: " You've gotta have balls if you want to ****."

[lightblue]

Very good friend to girlfriend conversion is very tricky, and you have to realise that you confessing your feelnigs towards her will change your relationship with her whatever happens afterwards. Things will never be as they are now. So if you don't want to lose what you now have, I'd think long and hard about actually going ahead with this plan.

You could however try and sound her friends out as to her feelings for you (that is if you can trust them not to blab it straight to her). That way you can find out if it's worth risking.

[MattyBoy]

Plus it is an epitome to idiocy to believe that every man or woman has the same % in what constitutes the most important aspect for him/her.

Paiktis, I'm not sure if you read that whole Ladder Theory thread or not, but I read it quite differently to you. I just took it to be an entertaining attempt to model the common themes in the dating game, assuming one's only goal was to get laid. Basically, just an amusing read.

My own goals with women are quite different to this and I agree that the act of classifying people is offensive, as it ignores the most important things about each person, which are unique.

But if you can set that all aside, the theory captures much of the subtext of the dating game, as I remember it. (Admittedly, I would never claim to understand female motivations, so I lack the knowledge and experience to judge.)

[MattyBoy]

but we were both too busy to actually keep it feasable, and she called it off. Now we're back to friends.

I don't mean to offend, but that's the lamest reason I've heard in a long time: "I love you more than life itself, but I'm a bit busy, so maybe we should just be friends"