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  • #76
    du-h. Zionism is a national movement, it's rather clear. but leftists in europe tend to have no problem whatsoever walking with Islamic clerics against Israel and the US.
    urgh.NSFW

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    • #77
      Originally posted by JohnT
      That explains why they are so buddy-buddy with Germany then. Birds of a feather and all that...
      Naw, the Franco-German raproachmebt has an entirely different object. Those Flemmings and Walloons better watch the hats, coats, and asses, or they are going to lose them now, and the Luxemburgers don't even have a prayer.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Oerdin
        If they wanted to steal his car then why burn it?
        Burning destroys the oils that form fingerprints on objects.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Azazel
          du-h. Zionism is a national movement, it's rather clear. but leftists in europe tend to have no problem whatsoever walking with Islamic clerics against Israel and the US.
          Sorry, but I honestly do not understand this?
          Walk with Islamic clerics?
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          • #80
            in demonstartions, that is.
            urgh.NSFW

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            • #81
              Originally posted by HershOstropoler
              "Of course, no Synagogues have been burned in France. Jewish people have no reason to start to look for the exits. Of course not."

              Well, let's look at how many jews get killed in acts of antisemitic violence:

              EU: 0 (unfortunately 0 just in most years, not all)
              US: 0 (unfortunately 0 just in most years, not all)
              Israel: 100? 200? (unfortunately over the last years)
              Over the past 60 years?

              I'd say about 20,000 have been killed in Israel over the past 60 years.
              I'd say 6 million have been killed in Europe over the past 60 years.

              Where would you rather live, especially with antisemitism on the rise in Europe?
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              • #82
                "Over the past 60 years?"

                Per year, over the last years.

                "Where would you rather live, especially with antisemitism on the rise in Europe?"

                On what do you base the idea that antisemitism is on the rise?
                “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                • #83
                  Azazel, It is funny how European leftists like do demonstrate against the US, and Israel. I don't know why that is. Of course there's nothing wrong with peaceful demonstrating, and they are loud minority after all, but I'd like to see the leftist movement protest against suicide bombers, against terrorism, against Saddam Hussein etc. I really don't believe that most of these people are Pro-Saddam etc, but they seem to concentrate on protesting against the US in general and won't make sound against the wrong doings against the US. Maybe they feel that the US is treated sometimes badly, but they won't make a sound. Them to have more credibility they should also make loud statemenst against these too. But I don't know.. I don't belong to that hippie-communist-red-wine-drinking group.. just what I think they think.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Ozz
                    Burning destroys the oils that form fingerprints on objects.
                    So you are claiming that they wished to destroy his car to destroy there finger prints? That would again indicate the reason was not robbery but politically or anti-semitically related. A thief would have tried to steal the car while a anti-semite would have tried to kill the rabbi and destroy the evidience; which is what happened.
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                    • #85
                      I'm thinking we owe Germany a big apology for always siding with the French. We should give the Germans the green light for any future attempt with the proviso that they shut those damn French up, and if they can stop them from making whoopie, all the better.

                      The Leapard would roll right over those AMX tanks from the 60's.
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by HershOstropoler
                        "Over the past 60 years?"

                        Per year, over the last years.
                        Well, sure, over the past couple of years, a few hundred have been killed per year. The doesn't change that historically, Israel has been a lot safer. The fact that the holocaust has happened once in Europe is more reason to believe it could happen there again, not less.

                        On what do you base the idea that antisemitism is on the rise?
                        The number of antisemitic acts (synogogue burnings, grafitting of Jewish gravestones with swastikas, beating up Jews, etc) in Europe, and especially France, is way up last year, to levels unseen since shortly before the Second World War. To me, that suggests that antisemitism is on the rise.

                        And when Danish kids are being taught to play Nazi & Jew, that doesn'tinspire much confidence either.
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                        • #87
                          "The doesn't change that historically, Israel has been a lot safer."

                          Especially in the time between the 1st century BC and 1948.

                          "The number of antisemitic acts (synogogue burnings, grafitting of Jewish gravestones with swastikas, beating up Jews, etc) in Europe, and especially France, is way up last year"

                          The nr of attacks in France is undisputably up. I fail to see nrs supporting that for the rest of europe. Also, as I said before, this is only losely related to the level of antisemitic sentiment.
                          “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Azazel
                            du-h. Zionism is a national movement, it's rather clear. but leftists in europe tend to have no problem whatsoever walking with Islamic clerics against Israel and the US.
                            so where's the problem in being against the policy of Israeli or US government? Does this automatically mean they're anit-semitic or anti-american?

                            I'm thinking we owe Germany a big apology for always siding with the French. We should give the Germans the green light for any future attempt with the proviso that they shut those damn French up, and if they can stop them from making whoopie, all the better.

                            The Leapard would roll right over those AMX tanks from the 60's.

                            I don't have any problems with being sided with the French. France is a great country and I'm sure that the very vast majority of the French will be against any racist
                            movement in their country....
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Oerdin


                              So you are claiming that they wished to destroy his car to destroy there finger prints? That would again indicate the reason was not robbery but politically or anti-semitically related. A thief would have tried to steal the car while a anti-semite would have tried to kill the rabbi and destroy the evidience; which is what happened.
                              Stealing cars for joyriding and then torching them is a common practice amongst youths europewide, I find it difficult to believe that you have not heard of this, I find it more likely that you only want to look for an answer that suits your predjudices.
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Mazarin
                                I'm sure that the very vast majority of the French will be against any racist movement in their country....
                                What's the last time the vast majority of French people have done anything other than be apathetic?

                                Never. Well, maybe symapthising with the Nazis in WWII but other than that, never.
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