Exidus of Jews from France reaches record levels.

[MRT144]

i dont criticize israel's policies. i criticize our one way relationship with them. israel is free to do what they want, its their country. do i think the israelis are wrong? sometimes, but then again no one is perfect, certainly not the US.

on the whole though id like to see the US just distance themselves from israel and allow them to run their own country and allow us to conduct diplomacy in the region without having the string of being your friend be a liability.

[Sandman]

If they want the destruction of Israel that would mean the deaths of millions, yes.

That's a strawman argument. The destruction of Israel does not necessarily entail a single death.

[Goingonit]

So who gets to take 6 million refugees? Or do you trust Yasser Arafat and his suicide bomber friends with a 40% Jewish minoritty?

[Az]

That's a strawman argument. The destruction of Israel does not necessarily entail a single death.

that's a stupid argument.
"The transfer of all the palestinians to Jordan does not necessarily entail a single death".

on the whole though id like to see the US just distance themselves from israel and allow them to run their own country and allow us to conduct diplomacy in the region without having the string of being your friend be a liability.

take it up with the US govt. not with Israel.

[MRT144]

the us government wont listen to me. israel would if i just strapped some C4 with ball bearings to myself and got on a crowded bus in tel aviv

[Az]

israel would if i just strapped some C4 with ball bearings to myself and got on a crowded bus in tel aviv

yes, just look how well Israel listens to the palestinians.

[Ned]

Originally posted by MRT144
i dont criticize israel's policies. i criticize our one way relationship with them. israel is free to do what they want, its their country. do i think the israelis are wrong? sometimes, but then again no one is perfect, certainly not the US.

on the whole though id like to see the US just distance themselves from israel and allow them to run their own country and allow us to conduct diplomacy in the region without having the string of being your friend be a liability.

MRT144, Why do you feel this way? Do you have some general principle of foreign policy in mind?

[MRT144]

haha it was meant to be sarcastic azazel

my general principle is that america should look out for america first. and supporting israel doesnt do that. it only damns us in foreign relations with arab countries.

[Ned]

MRT144, Would you continue this position if Israel could not survive on her own?

[Az]

he probably would. But we can survive on our own.

my general principle is that america should look out for america first. and supporting israel doesnt do that. it only damns us in foreign relations with arab countries.

Apparently your leadership doesn't agree with you.

[Sandman]

So who gets to take 6 million refugees? Or do you trust Yasser Arafat and his suicide bomber friends with a 40% Jewish minoritty?

"The transfer of all the palestinians to Jordan does not necessarily entail a single death".

Replace Israel with a secular non-ethnic state. Have a truth and reconciliation commitee. With no Israel around, there's no need for a paunchy baron like Arafat around either. Chuck him in jail.

That's what I mean by the 'destruction of Israel', not killing, deporting or enslaving.

[Goingonit]

Originally posted by Sandman
Replace Israel with a secular non-ethnic state...

Which is overhelmed by an exploding Palestinian population within 20 years.

Have a truth and reconciliation commitee. ..

Which will work because...

With no Israel around, there's no need for a paunchy baron like Arafat around either. Chuck him in jail.

He was around before Israel's occupation of the territories. He'll be around until the last Jew in Tel Aviv is sent swimming towards Cyprus.

That's what I mean by the 'destruction of Israel', not killing, deporting or enslaving.

The end result is the same.

[MRT144]

ned, of course i would. i dont think its americas place to protect the israelis. they think they can defend themselves, let them do it. if the nation goes down, it goes down. we cant write the history of the world no matter how hard we want to. it simply isnt right to dictate the future of every single nation on earth.

[Ozz]

Originally posted by Edan
You are someone who appears to delight at the thought of millions of Israeli Jews and a million other innocent Israeli civilians dying, and I see no point to further debate this with you. Bigotry and rationality rarely coexist, and I don't see the point of expecting sound logic and intellectual honesty from someone who displays bigotry.

How you picked that out of what I posted is not logical.

Enjoy your hatred and pain, and keep the circle of violence and degraded human rights spinning downward. It's easy enough sitting safe in the US, oh
I forgot, attitudes like yours have made nowhere safe
on earth for people. No Killin' in the mid-east and
relax in NY on the weekend.

Oh, And speak Hebrew for now on, cause you obviously
don't understand English, or justice, or truth.

You don't even know what Anti-semitism means.

[Edan]

Originally posted by MRT144
every israeli here probably thinks im an anti semite though and im just for the record stating that i simply hate the way israeli is a parasite on our country...

I take it you think Egypt is a parasite too, right?