Greece faces shame of role in Serb massacre

[Bereta_Eder]

plus they trained (US and UK did) albanian terrorists against the serbs.
also know.

until THEY are brought to justic efor their crimes...

and untill NATO bombuibngs which was illegal is also put to trial...
then maybe you'll see greece say: sorry for giving humanitarian aid to the dying people of serbia.


untill then or untill someone forces us since we are also a small country (and be sure they have enough enemies already without wanting to make even more than necessairy)

dont hold your ****ing breath!

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Hey I didn't say they did not help us, of course they did - actually US only not UK. But they weren't raising their flag either.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Originally posted by paiktis22
plus they trained (US and UK did) albanian terrorists against the serbs.
also know.

until THEY are brought to justic efor their crimes...

and untill NATO bombuibngs which was illegal is also put to trial...
then maybe you'll see greece say: sorry for giving humanitarian aid to the dying people of serbia.


untill then or untill someone forces us since we are also a small country (and be sure they have enough enemies already without wanting to make even more than necessairy)

dont hold your ****ing breath!

hey have to go... but it wouldn't harm you to read the link I posted about the dates

[Arrian]

But, OFITG, that's all lies and US propoganda! Can't you SEE, man?!?!?! The American Imperialist Aggressors made all that up so they could... what was the justification again? Oh, yeah, "justify the existence of Nato."



-Arrian

[Bereta_Eder]

who the hell cares IF they raised their flag?


and they werent just "llonie" volunteers either. they wer governments training terrorists and helping you ethnic cleasne.

dont give me any of that crap.

just smile when you give us your eu application next months

[Bereta_Eder]

arrian youre an idiot

[Flatlander Fox]

Originally posted by paiktis22
they were giving ya sorry asses latest tech to fight the serbs, its admitted even by the US.
otherwiese they'd had kicked your ass in the grass and there would be any croatia baby
and you etnhic cleansed

After reading this post I realized that you obviously are not Greek, but one of the Serb minority living in Greece.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[Bereta_Eder]

besides im done with this thread
case closed

[Flatlander Fox]

*waves*

Now can someone ELSE produce some evidence stating that the bombing caused the exodus?

I'm waiting to be shown the light...

[Bereta_Eder]

But the German general Heinz Loquai has demonstrated that the so-called 'horse-shoe plan' document presented by the German minister Scharping was fake, that the genocide was a lie of the media and he just qualified the war as 'unjustified', and accused NATO to have caused two humanitarian catastrophes: a massive exodus of the Albanians and then another exodus of the Serbs. And the general Michael Rose, who commanded the UN forces in Bosnia, reproaches NATO "to have introduced a culture of violence"




sources


1) Michel Collon, Monopoly - L'Otan à la Conquête du monde, EPO, march 2000, p. 96. (English edition prepared) (2) The Guardian, February 15, 2001. (3) Idem. (4) Idem. (5) AFP-Skopje, March 6, 2001. (6) Washington Post, April 28, 1999. (7) Pittsburgh Gazette, March 11, 2001. (8) Time, 8 mars 2001 (9) Both cited in Kan Anders-Vredeskoerier (Holland), march 2001. (10) Declaration of Robertson (NATO), AP, March 6. (11) L'Humanité, November 18, 1999 (12) Pittsburgh Gazette, March 11, 2001 (13) Michel Collon, Poker menteur, EPO, 1998, p. 191. (Soon published in English version) (14) See Monopoly, pp. 70-71. (15) The European mediator in Bosnia, David Owen, cited in Michel Collon, Poker menteur, EPO, 1998, p. 182. (16) Michel Collon, Poker menteur, p. 116. (17) Le Figaro, February 10, 2001. (18) PBS, February 14, 2001. (19) AFP - Paris, March 8, 2001. (20) BBC, March 6. (21) Reuters - Skopje, March 8, 2001. (22) BBC, March 6. (23) Reuters - London, March 8, 2001




byeeeeeee

[Arrian]

Flatlander,

Let's maybe try and actually have a reasonable discussion here. Here's a question:

We agree that NATO's intervention wasn't properly done. You indicated that NATO underestimated the level of hatred (particularly, I assume, on the part of the ethnic Albanians vs. the Serbs), and was not prepared to deal with the backlash. With the gift of hindsight, what do you think could have been done to prevent or at least limit the anti-Serbian backlash by the ethnic Albanians and to contain or even break the KLA?

-Arrian

[Arrian]

Paiktis, do you happen to have a link handy for any of the listed sources? Just curious, as it would make finding the articles easier.

-Arrian

[Bereta_Eder]

support the Greek (and others) position for a political solution doh!

and NOT boycott it so to invade and justify the existance of NATO.


oh and



It is known, however, that until March 24th, the day the war began, there had been no mass exodus of Albanians from Kosovo. The province known for its long-running ethnic conflict has for many years been home to Albanian terrorists who set up the Kosovo Liberation Army. Naturally, their operations prompt a reaction from the Yugoslav authorities. Incidentally, it was the United States and other NATO members that have repeatedly warned of the danger of terrorist organizations gaining strength



same sources as above

[Flatlander Fox]

Tough call. We thought we could go in, and have a Bosnian like reaction, where people really stopped fighting.

But the difference was that in Bosnia, the people WERE TIRED of fighting.

In Kosovo, the fighting had just begun.

In hindsight we should have stepped in before the real killing began, instead of waiting until the situation spiralled out of control.

Also, a severe crackdown on Albanian Terrorists should have happened IMMEDIATELY. Often, they were let off easy after being caught running weapons across the border.

Once again, we allowed the situation to get too far out of control.

The bottom line is that the U.S. did NOT want to deal with this like they ended up doing.

The hopes within the military ranks were that the Europeans would handle this particular mess, and leave us not necessarily out of it, but not the driving force behind it.


So what you get is a wishy-washy decision making process, which is what REALLY hurt the Kosovars in the long run.

[Flatlander Fox]

Yeah, and once your political solution was finished, the ethnic-albanians would all be in Macedonia and Albania right?

Sounds alot like Chamberlain waiting on Hitler to annex Czech.


Your views disgust me.