Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Asian Apologies

Collapse
X
Collapse
 
  • Page of 10
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 template Next
  • #46
    "If this happened in Europe or North America, people would be saying the same things."

    I do not remember anybody demanding a personal apology from the president. In fact, I daresay a personal apology wouldn't go down so well in Europe--it would ring hollow, because he wasn't responsible for it. Expressions of regret and sympathy are always welcome, of course.

    "There's a whole lot of crap here about why Asians demand apologies"

    You need to get over it. This is Apolyton, after all.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

    Comment

    • #47
      When four Canadian soldiers were killed in Afghanistan there were a lot of complaints in Canada that Bush did not offer an immediate apology and the fact that he only spoke about it after being prompted by a reporter's questions.

      When children get killed, people's emotions run high. That's all that is happening in Korea.
      Golfing since 67

      Comment

      • #48
        Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
        If this happened in Europe or North America, people would be saying the same things.


        I don't think this is true and it seems like many North American posters agree with me. If this happened in America, we would want the truck drivers to pay, not some meaningless apology from Kim Dae Jung.
        I asked this question before, what if situation was reversed... it is highly likely we will get a formal apology whether we demanded or not, after all it is formal, its diplomatic stuff.
        :-p

        Comment

        • #49
          Originally posted by Tingkai
          When four Canadian soldiers were killed in Afghanistan there were a lot of complaints in Canada that Bush did not offer an immediate apology and the fact that he only spoke about it after being prompted by a reporter's questions.
          Erm...no there wasn't.

          If there was they did the damnest to keep quiet, since I've never heard of anyone complaining about Bush not offering an immediate apology.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

          Comment

          • #50
            The diplomatic stuff was done, apparently.
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

            Comment

            • #51
              Originally posted by Asher

              Erm...no there wasn't.

              If there was they did the damnest to keep quiet, since I've never heard of anyone complaining about Bush not offering an immediate apology.
              You really need to start reading newspapers.

              Bush apology too late for some
              U.S. president goes public with sympathy for Canadian casualties after MPs complain

              OTTAWA (CP) -- A more timely public expression of sorrow from U.S. President George W. Bush would have been appreciated by the families of Canada's dead soldiers, Deputy Prime Minister John Manley said Friday.

              Some Canadians were incensed that Bush waited until Friday to publicly acknowledge the "friendly fire" incident in which an American F-16 fighter jet killed four Canadian soldiers and wounded eight in Afghanistan overnight Wednesday.

              NDP Leader Alexa McDonough said she had "a real sense of rage that we're being taken for granted."

              "It does show how far down the list this Canadian government is with the American president," said John Reynolds, acting leader of the Canadian Alliance.

              404 Not Found
              http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSAttack0204/19_bush-cp.html
              Golfing since 67

              Comment

              • #52
                "How about US's approval rating for some of dictators around the world?

                Kim Jong Il = 0%

                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

                Comment

                • #53
                  Wasnt aware that Bush expressed his feelings toward this tragedy, though I guessed he would.

                  From the most cynical point of view, its just better to say sorry than to be stubborn and refuse to say it. Bush doesnt need to the responsibility while apologizing. People say sorry for the most trivial stuff in our society as well, why be stubborn now? Just trying to be stubborn would rather tarnish our image. I still remain unconvinced on wether we should apologizes OR not apologize, but the point is just do it, make us look good god dammit.
                  :-p

                  Comment

                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Tingkai
                    You really need to start reading newspapers.

                    Bush apology too late for some
                    U.S. president goes public with sympathy for Canadian casualties after MPs complain

                    OTTAWA (CP) -- A more timely public expression of sorrow from U.S. President George W. Bush would have been appreciated by the families of Canada's dead soldiers, Deputy Prime Minister John Manley said Friday.

                    Some Canadians were incensed that Bush waited until Friday to publicly acknowledge the "friendly fire" incident in which an American F-16 fighter jet killed four Canadian soldiers and wounded eight in Afghanistan overnight Wednesday.

                    NDP Leader Alexa McDonough said she had "a real sense of rage that we're being taken for granted."

                    "It does show how far down the list this Canadian government is with the American president," said John Reynolds, acting leader of the Canadian Alliance.

                    http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSAttack0204/19_bush-cp.html
                    Of course there will be SOME idiots who want attention from Bush, but to say that there was "a lot of complaints" -- to even compare it to anything near the scale of Korea's complaints now, is completely ridiculous and shamelessly misrepresenting the case to try to prove a point.

                    To make it even more obvious, your article quotes the NDP leader as being upset. Tell everyone what portion of the government is NDP, Tingkai.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

                    Comment

                    • #55
                      Originally posted by DanS
                      "How about US's approval rating for some of dictators around the world?

                      Kim Jong Il = 0%

                      I don't see any action being taken.

                      Of course there will be SOME idiots who want attention from Bush, but to say that there was "a lot of complaints" -- to even compare it to anything near the scale of Korea's complaints now, is completely ridiculous and shamelessly misrepresenting the case to try to prove a point.
                      I'm telling you, the overexaggerated response probably has to do with some fact that they dont like us maybe?
                      :-p

                      Comment

                      • #56
                        There's a big difference between expressing regret for an incident (saying I'm sorry) and accepting responsibility for said incident (making a personal apology). That's how it seems to me, at least, but I'm just an evil Western ethnocentrist.
                        KH FOR OWNER!
                        ASHER FOR CEO!!
                        GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

                        Comment

                        • #57
                          "I don't see any action being taken."

                          Slowly. Methodically.

                          He's been added to the "Axis of loathe" list this time.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

                          Comment

                          • #58
                            It's politics. Principle never exists, Save some face by acting out publicly. They're not gonna try out Bush for murder if he apologies. Its all pointless stubborness.. on both sides!
                            :-p

                            Comment

                            • #59
                              Originally posted by DanS
                              "I don't see any action being taken."

                              Slowly. Methodically.

                              He's been added to the "loathe" list this time.
                              I dont tink so, if anything he's been take out of the "loathe" list. Bush conveniently doesnt talk about his old original "axis of evil" list anymore. This is also cause of politics because of the way how South and North relationship has been moving.

                              Only reason North would be mentioned at all these days now would be because of that nuke thing.... thats kinda hard not to talk about.
                              :-p

                              Comment

                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Asher
                                To make it even more obvious, your article quotes the NDP leader as being upset. Tell everyone what portion of the government is NDP, Tingkai.
                                Can you read Asher?

                                Do you see the comment from the conservative Canadian Alliance. Did you read the entire article with the comments from the Liberals and the Conservatives.

                                But of course you're right when you wrote: "They did the damnest to keep quiet, since I've never heard of anyone complaining about Bush not offering an immediate apology."

                                Okay Asher, you're right. No one complained.
                                Golfing since 67

                                Comment

                                Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 template Next
                                Working...
                                X