Nov 30th 1939 - A Date which will live in Infamy

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Pekka
Tassadar, That's just evil ! .

Hmm....Which is better: Helsinkagrad or Helsinkagorsk?

[Pekka]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000


Hmm....Which is better: Helsinkagrad or Helsinkagorsk?

Would you like to be burried head to the sunrise, or sunset?

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000


Argh, it is time to settle this once and for all....

I take it the Red Country in your map must be the new Finnish Empire. Yes, that is what would happen if your ****tified military tried to go up against the mighty Finnish military machine. It would be another humiliation for Russia, but then that is something you are used to....

[Nubclear]

Would you like to be burried head to the sunrise, or sunset?

Theres a sun in your country?

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
I take it the Red Country in your map must be the new Finnish Empire. Yes, that is what would happen if your ****tified military tried to go up against the mighty Finnish military machine. It would be another humiliation for Russia, but then that is something you are used to....

I think someones a bit jealous cause they haven't been able to sucessfully invade us....

[Pekka]

We get it.. don't you?

But it's good we have close relations now, and chance for war is slim to none in the future. For war, you'd have to attack first.. and I can't see why you'd want that.
And because we're such good neighbors now, you could give us Karelia back.. as a show of good faith.. right? .

Also we can trade, you give us your space program, and we give you our mind control program.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Pekka
And because we're such good neighbors now, you could give us Karelia back.. as a show of good faith.. right? .

Hmm.....well......Tell you what. If you join our federation, we'll bundle Karelia right in with the "Finn Oblast" Do we have a deal...?

Also we can trade, you give us your space program, and we give you our mind control program.

You first

[Pekka]

Tassadar, Grrrrr... you're tough negotiator. I think we will not see any solutions for coming years .

[Hurricane]

I certainly don't want Karelia back. And I'm positive most Finns agree with me.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Sprayber


Then quit your *****ing and be more careful about who you call a Nazi in the future.

When I called YOU a nazi?

And get over this need to defend Russia against every little thing.

Against lies, not little things. Statement about historical ****iness of Russian military is lie, jealous lie.

Just admit that the SU was wrong to invade Finland.

I've never denied this. Agression is agression. SU had started this war, USSR acted as agressor, and it doesn't matter what reasons pushed Stalin to war- He started it- SU is responsible for beggining of war. So, yes it was wrong.
Are you ready to admit let's say after 50 years (when your empire will collapse ) that American attaxk vs. Iraq was because of OIL, not because of self-defense?
Personaly I see very good paralel betwen Stalin's order to attack Finland (for self-defense only as he was saying) and Bush's desire to attack Iraq (sure for self-defence too).

[Serb]

Originally posted by Pekka
Broke the Mannerheim Line? In which game or movie or fantasy? .

It was broken. Otherwise why do you think your government agreed to fullfil Stalin's demands and surendered part of its territory to SU?
If it wasn't broken and there was no real threat of complete occupation, you could continue to killing Russkies and let them freeze to death, while seating in your warm bunkers. Why to agree with enemy demands and give-up your territory then?

I guess he didn't want to continue the war that was costing so much? We were getting troops of Britain and so (though not sure if it would have happened, but Stalin didn't know that).

GB and France were pretty close to declaration of war on SU. French prepared their 150 000 troops of expedition force and Brits were ready to send submarines in Black sea. Stalin knew this from the beggining. That's why he ordered to make this campaign as fast as possible and as silent as possible.

Besides, we don't belong to you.. how do you figure that?

At least Karelia belonged to Novgorod, (in times when Finland belonged to Sweden I guees )

Buuut.. you're welcomed here, again, like last time .

You know, the ways of modern warfare is a bit differnt then they were in 1939.

I don't beleive we will ever fight again, at least not in near future. You guys are Ok
(well, a bit... slow but still Ok )

[Serb]

Originally posted by Pekka
Lefty, well it's not our fault you know.. sometimes when I go to the supermarket to get some marlboros, I have to fight polar bear, and maybe even some wolves. And we have tight gun control, so it's pretty much hand to hand.. or should I say hand to claw fights. It makes you tough let me tell you that one. In winter time, when there's no food and it's cold, you have to kill few bears to get yourself warm coats, and maybe wild horse to get something to go with your bread.

And you have to cross those frozen lakes that always brakes when you walk in it, so you have to learn to swim in freezing water, alter your body so you won't die because you went for a coffee with your buddies.

Well said Pekka, how good I understand you. You know, I'm from Siberia, the only difference with your story is that we have brown bears instead of polar here.

[Rasbelin]

First of all, the Mannerheim line was broken during the war, so Serb is right. But he's wrong with the claim that Karelia would have been a part of Novgorod. Njet, Serb. It was captured by Tyrgils Knutsson during the 3rd Swedish crusade to eastern Finland in 1298. He even reached the river Neva, but Landskrona was destryoed quickly by the Russians (Novgorod), so he had to retreat abit. The peace treaty of Nöteborg in 1323 (in Finnish: Pähkinälinnan rauha) of set the first borders of "Finland." BTW, he also found Vyborg.

This is all simple Medieval history.

[Serb]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
The Crimean War, The Russo-Japanese War, WWI, & the present day are signs of the historical ****iness of the Russian military machine. WWII was a high point for you.

You think you are funny DD? 27 millions of Soviet people died. COULD YOU ****ING IMAGINE 27 0 0 0 0 0 0 P E O P L E?

You are sick, arrogant, self-praising egoistic bastards. How dare you to insult memory of people who died in war vs. nazism? Who the **** are you to make such claims? A guy whose country's total amount of wars during its entire history is less then amount of fingers on two palms. And you dare to lecturing Russians who spend thousand years in constant wars and military campaigns. Do you have any idea how many wars we've won? Why every time, when somebody conquered entire Europe and defeat all European powers one by one, it was Russia who crushed him in the end. Karl XII, Napoleon, Hitler all of them were damn arrogant and have the same arrogant opinion about Russian military, they paid for their arrogance. You will be next.


David, the same bs as always. Nothing changes
Don't have time now. Just once again, one, single point- Lend-Lease was only 5% in total Soviet war-expenses. Five percents David. F I V E F I V E Do you get it? Describing it as you do, like- "we feed you, we suplied you with arms and ammo, etc. We gave you EVERYTHING. It's American victory. We saved the world, we are true heroes" Is bull****. TOTAL bull****.
Have a nice day.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Rasbelin
Njet, Serb.

It was...it was Ask Swedes from Paradox, who created Europa Universalise. On their map Karelia belong to Novgorod. I trust them, because it's true

[Rasbelin]

Damn you, Serb. You shouldn't trust them too much.