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  • #61
    Paitkis,

    I wouldn't let Mexico join the U.S. under any circumstances. Why add tens of millions of people who don't speak English, and who needs hundreds of thousands of acres of useless wasteland? The only thing that adding Mexico would do is drop our standard of living, and multiply our social problems. IMO, we should be doing a better job of keeping the Mexicans in Mexico.

    I feel the same way about Turkey. Turkey is not European, it never has been and it never will be. It has no business in the EU. I think that the Greeks should be allowed to kick the Turks back into Asia Minor, rename Istanbul to Constantinople, and reclaim the Hagia Sophia. Admitting Turkey would destroy the EU.
    "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is to have with them as little political connection as possible... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far as we are now at liberty to do it." George Washington- September 19, 1796

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Gerth22
      eu not a good idea.. i tell you one more time. this as not truth but warning. i has lost my brake making job to canida yester day. if you not keep it in eu west and if you make it east you would see things move to lower cost araes like poland and then labor has made cheep and they will leaf west factorys to east
      I agree with you Gerth. If I were in Belgium, I'd be anti-EU as well. I'd also be opposed to the Guest Workers. What part of Belgium are you from?
      Last edited by nationalist; October 9, 2002, 12:56.
      "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is to have with them as little political connection as possible... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far as we are now at liberty to do it." George Washington- September 19, 1796

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      • #63
        i not in german!

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        • #64
          belgium. i in flemmish. why has 2 people say im germna? you not know the flag differance

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          • #65
            nationalist, you have the german flag
            CSPA

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            • #66
              "Would you accept Mexico as a US state BEFORE it sorted out such things as not being democratic, using tortures, violating all sorts of human rights, having hostile relations with virtually all his neighboors and having a crap economy which would collapse if left wityhout HUGE aid and huge povery in its population?"

              I think something could be worked out, as Mexico has many of these problems nowadays. Joining the U.S. would lock in a lot of gains in a lot of areas for Mexico, so I think the U.S. would be understanding.

              Also, let's get back to business. Turkey offers a lot more than does Mexico to a potential suitor. It bears repeating that the geography of Turkey is extremely valuable. The U.S. has never gone wrong by paying too much for their land and I don't expect the EU would either.

              "and who needs hundreds of thousands of acres of useless wasteland"

              Thar be oil on that thar land.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #67
                Yeah, I know. I am doing some of my German History reading while I post, and I had a brain lapse. Embarassing typo to say the least. I fixed it as soon as I noticed it.
                "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is to have with them as little political connection as possible... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far as we are now at liberty to do it." George Washington- September 19, 1796

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                • #68
                  I know it's not pleasant for Belgians (flemish and walones alike ) but a lot of people confuse the Belgian and the German flag.

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                  • #69
                    Paitkis,

                    What do you think of my suggestion to the Greeks?
                    "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is to have with them as little political connection as possible... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far as we are now at liberty to do it." George Washington- September 19, 1796

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                    • #70
                      Oh, it will happen, in due time

                      Like the old saying goes:

                      Pali me chronus ke kairous dika mas tha' ne

                      "Through years and times, ours (Constantinople-Asia Minor) they will become again"

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by TheStinger
                        Of course the french just ignore stuff they don't agree with
                        Frenchmen ? no ... We just take some time to think about it.
                        Zobo Ze Warrior
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                        Your brain is your worst enemy!

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by paiktis22
                          Oh, it will happen, in due time

                          Like the old saying goes:

                          Pali me chronus ke kairous dika mas tha' ne

                          "Through years and times, ours (Constantinople-Asia Minor) they will become again"
                          You are laughting here but when I was on vacantion in Greece said the guide something like "it is sad that constantinople the center of Christianity is not in Christian hands"

                          But I suppose that's the oppinion of a small minority of wackos like you have in every country. Still hilarious

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                          • #73
                            Why aren't Malta and Cyprus already member they already meet the criteria for years?
                            Because in Malta people drive like crazy.

                            Last time I went there I almost got invested 5 times in 2 weeks.

                            Plus, if it is someone like me (who zip with his scooter at 95 km/h in the traffic jam of Turin) who is sayng that Maltish drive like crazy, it meens it is true.

                            Saluti

                            PS: And in Malta they also treat turist very bad
                            "Life is pretty simple: You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else.
                            The trick is the doing something else."
                            — Leonardo da Vinci
                            "If God forbade drinking, would He have made wine so good?" - Cardinal Richelieu
                            "In vino veritas" - Plinio il vecchio

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by kolpo
                              You are laughting here but when I was on vacantion in Greece said the guide something like "it is sad that constantinople the center of Christianity is not in Christian hands"
                              the fact that millions of christians were kicked out of the lands they lived for thousands of years is indeed sad. it does NOT mean though that there are more than just a few idiots(the same percentage of idiots all countries have) who want to get into a war about it...


                              Why aren't ... Cyprus already member they already meet the criteria for years?
                              cause Turkey threatened to start a war about it if the cyprus issue wasnt resolved first....

                              eventually EU got tired(our acceptance of Turkey's candidancy had something do with it probably ) of waiting for Turkey to do some serious discussion (why would they do it, noone was really pushing them) and decided to let Cyprus regardless of the resolution of the issue....

                              i think even know Turkey hasnt taken back the casus belli...
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Gerth22
                                eu not a good idea.. i tell you one more time. this as not truth but warning. i has lost my brake making job to canida yester day. if you not keep it in eu west and if you make it east you would see things move to lower cost araes like poland and then labor has made cheep and they will leaf west factorys to east
                                Cheap manufactured goods from Poland would be great, provided they meet EU standards.

                                Personnally I see no reason to prop up an industry that is more expensive than importing. I regret the loss of your job, but I'm sure that Belgium has the potential to produce other goods/services more cheaply or to a higher standard than (say) Poland. Therefor by Poland joining the EU, Belgium has an additional market into which to sell its wares.

                                To me, integration is a question of how and when not if.
                                One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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