Hating gays pays!

[KrazyHorse]

Probably something along the lines of "Gays are people too, and please don't shove broom handles up their anuses because then we'll get in trouble".

[Ramo]

Yeah, that sounds likely.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Sikander


No I'm doing a bit of trolling within the framework of a serious post. The serious part is:

Why would you think it possible that all gays and bisexuals hate mormons? Why do you think that Boris would know what all gays and bisexuals think? It seems as though you are extrapolating your inference about one man's opinion to everyone of his class, which is what you are accusing him of. I grant you that he did take a broad shot at mormons, so I understand why you were upset by that. I think it would have been better to lead by example and point out the objectionable quality of Boris' post rather than reacting in the same vein.

In the same vein as you stated above, why would he think it's possible that all mormons hate gays and bisexuals.

My point was made perfectly clear to you: It's ludicrous to assume that EVERYBODY of a certain race, religion or sexual preference has the same opinion about everything, so in actuality MY troll was better than yours.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Tuberski

In the same vein as you stated above, why would he think it's possible that all mormons hate gays and bisexuals.

My point was made perfectly clear to you: It's ludicrous to assume that EVERYBODY of a certain race, religion or sexual preference has the same opinion about everything, so in actuality MY troll was better than yours.

Except that my troll was funny, while yours was watered down by your being highly offended.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Tuberski



I'm Mormon, and I find this highly offensive.......


Do all homosexual or bisexual people hate Mormons?

Not meant as an offense, but for a time Mormon doctrine was explicitly racist. I was just using it as an example of someone using religious beliefs to justify racism. And I pointed out that other religious sects have done the same. Southerners used the Bible to justify enslaving Blacks, some Muslims use their faith to justify hating Jews, etc.

I'm aware mainstream Mormonism has renounced these tenets, so sorry for the comment.

[Boris Godunov]

Oh, and nowhere does it say these two men were fined. Merely reprimanded for unprofessional conduct. And it was indeed unprofessional. So they get $78,000? For what?

[rah]

For taking advantage of the system. The number 1 participatory sport in the US. I'm sure their lawyers pocketed a good portion of that judgement.

RAH

[Caligastia]

Ive changed my mind. Those christians were being arseholes.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Oh, and nowhere does it say these two men were fined.

I believe it said it in the article.

Cali: Of course they were being arseholes, but so what?

Question: Is protest wrong at work? Then should all unions be disbanded? After all the purpose of unions is protest.

[drake]

Protesting like an adult sure.

This involves conversation and some form of debate. People should be entitled to voice thier opinion, but what the employer decides is ultimately what should rule. Not the other way around. If people want to work in a different sort of environment, one that is exactly what they're after, then perhaps they should start running thier own business.

Unions? In my opinion they suck, but thats really a different discussion.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well... I mean, if you are talking about protesting, unions come to mind immediately. And they were PROTESTING like adults! They were silently protesting, not bothering anyone esle. Yelling slogans and whatnot is protesting like children.

[drake]

I'm saying these guys should have talked to thier boss about this, explained thier reasoning and if the employer lets them off the hook fine. If he doesn't, then these guys should either accept it or quit.

In-subordination is grounds for firing in any field. One can't be allowed to pick and choose what they will and won't do at work. That defeats the whole purpose of having a hierarchy.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Che might say that is just fine .

And talk to their boss... these are prision guards. They likely don't have good speaking abilites. They god-fearing down home bumpkins .

[drake]

Heh good point...i can just see them trying to convey thier opinion to thier boss....

"Uh Boss, we uh don't wanna go to that there meetin' cuz we uh, well ummm.....jesus told us that fagz, err homos, err gay people, uh is evil and we uh, don't wanna go. We don't want to be edumacated different see, as that err goes against our faith sir. So can we skip the ***, er, gay meeting boss?"

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Ramo
What's the content of the seminar, exactly?

The ones I've experienced are pretty pragmatic and don't fanny about. The brutal fact is that some people don't like gays, and no amount of "Hey! Gays are really groovy people! Let's all have a group hug!" is going to change that.

My own courses can be summed up like this-

1- "This is what discrimination to gays looks like".

2- "This sort of discrimination is unacceptable at this company."

3- "If you do it, you'll get fired. Have leaflet."