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Originally posted by Rogan Josh
Some of you guys are just as bigotted in your anti-Christian beliefs as he is in his view of homosexuality.
Are you pointing the finger at me or somebody else? I would like to know specifically if it is me? Because I am not anti-Christian, I dislike bible-thumping extremists though.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
Belief, faith, what you rely on for your world model simply not sufficient an explanation. To quote Nietzsche: 'A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything'.
If I were to point out things where God had his hand at work, you would try to disprove that God had any play in it at all. That is why I don't want to waste my time, not because I am a lunatic. And you would refuse to believe there was a God if he slapped you in the face and told you to listen to Him for the simple reason that you don't WANT to believe that there is a God. You enjoy pissing off Christians, and you know it. You think you are God. But if you are so powerful then live forever.
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Originally posted by Rogan Josh
It doesn't matter what his reasons for thinking homosexuality is wrong are! It is his right to hold any opinion he wants.
Some of you guys are just as bigotted in your anti-Christian beliefs as he is in his view of homosexuality.
Thank you Rogan Josh. I am glad that not everyone here seems to be blind.
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Originally posted by Rogan Josh
It doesn't matter what his reasons for thinking homosexuality is wrong are! It is his right to hold any opinion he wants.
Some of you guys are just as bigotted in your anti-Christian beliefs as he is in his view of homosexuality.
I'm not anti-Christian, I'm against Christian Oppression.
I know many Christians that I have no problems with in this respect (MrFun is one of them in fact), I just hate it when they march around talking about how homosexuality is a sin, etc.
They should get off their moral high horse and tolerate people who are different. Not everyone wants to live life like them.
Your argument is nothing more than a rehashed "those people against intolerances are intolerant themselves" approach, which doesn't really work well...
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
I'm not anti-Christian, I'm against Christian Oppression.
I know many Christians that I have no problems with in this respect (MrFun is one of them in fact), I just hate it when they march around talking about how homosexuality is a sin, etc.
But it is a sin. Just because people do it doesn't make it right. It's like jumping off a brigde or walking around naked. Sure, you can do it, and some people do, but it doesn't make it right or okay to do just because people do it. And what harm is there in walking around naked? It is the way you were born after all. Still isn't right.
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Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus
But it is a sin.
NOT EVERYBODY IS A CHRISTIAN, NOT EVERYBODY BELIEVES THAT CRAP, THAT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AN ARGUMENT.
Comprende?
Just because people do it doesn't make it right.
Just because an archaic book says it's a sin doesn't make it wrong, either. Particularly when that book has said many other things that no Christians enforce...
I would think you'd be a disgrace to true Christians everywhere.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus
Thank you Rogan Josh. I am glad that not everyone here seems to be blind.
er.... didn't I just call you a bigot?
Originally posted by Asher
I'm not anti-Christian, I'm against Christian Oppression.
It is not 'Christian Oppression' when a Christain has an opinion.
I know many Christians that I have no problems with in this respect (MrFun is one of them in fact), I just hate it when they march around talking about how homosexuality is a sin, etc.
hmm.... so you just hate it when they express their opinions?
They should get off their moral high horse and tolerate people who are different. Not everyone wants to live life like them.
I agree. So why don't you dismount then?
Your argument is nothing more than a rehashed "those people against intolerances are intolerant themselves" approach, which doesn't really work well...
No it is not. You (or at least the others were) are criticising him for his Christianity - not his intolerance (which has nothing to do with Christianity).
Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus
If I were to point out things where God had his hand at work, you would try to disprove that God had any play in it at all. That is why I don't want to waste my time, not because I am a lunatic. And you would refuse to believe there was a God if he slapped you in the face and told you to listen to Him for the simple reason that you don't WANT to believe that there is a God. You enjoy pissing off Christians, and you know it. You think you are God. But if you are so powerful then live forever.
There is no reason to believe in God. These 'displays of God's miracles' or whatever are very easy to dispute and it seems to be more a matter of the Christian trying to interpret whatever he feels like from the thing.
And no God has slapped me in the face, nor is he ever likely to, therefore the God hypothesis is extremely implausible and is not worthy of rational consideration as a worldview.
I do not claim to be omnipotent either. I am a man of science, I want to know the answers, the truth of the matter. Not be swayed by thousands of year old fallacies. Finding the answers of the universe requires hard work and perseverence, not yielding to ignorance and the few who claim to offer solutions but really know nothing.
You are just getting in a flap because you can't come up with a convincing argument.
And Rogan, you should be aware by now that anyone who comes out with hatred and bigotry will be called to task for their outlook. They must be questioned, their reasoning scrutinised, and really shown why they are full of s**t.
Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith
NOT EVERYBODY IS A CHRISTIAN, NOT EVERYBODY BELIEVES THAT CRAP, THAT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AN ARGUMENT.
Comprende?
Just because an archaic book says it's a sin doesn't make it wrong, either. Particularly when that book has said many other things that no Christians enforce...
I would think you'd be a disgrace to true Christians everywhere.
Just because you don't believe it doesn't make it any less valid. You may not believe that there are numbers, but there are. You might believe that there are numbers, but that 2+2=5. You would be wrong. I "comprende", but I think that you are wrong.
I also think that just about everyone who claims to be a Christian today is really a disgrace to true Christians, myself included. But God is merciful, no?
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Originally posted by Rogan Josh
It is not 'Christian Oppression' when a Christain has an opinion.
It certainly is when that opinion is the same one that drafts laws that everyone has to live under, and essentially makes a group of people 2nd class citizens accordingly.
hmm.... so you just hate it when they express their opinions?
I hate it when they express their opinions of intolerance. Likewise, I hate it when racists talk as well.
I agree. So why don't you dismount then?
Because they have faith, and no amount of logic will stop that with these types.
No it is not. You (or at least the others were) are criticising him for his Christianity - not his intolerance (which has nothing to do with Christianity).
They go hand in hand in this case. He's stated himself that he doesn't like homosexuality because it's a sin, and it's a sin becuase Christianity said so.
Sorry Rogan, I realize you're Christian and I wasn't directing my comments at you, but the hardline Christians like this guy.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
I am a man of science, I want to know the answers, the truth of the matter.
Yeah, right! And I am Leonardo Da Vinci.
And Rogan, you should be aware by now that anyone who comes out with hatred and bigotry will be called to task for their outlook. They must be questioned, their reasoning scrutinised, and really shown why they are full of s**t.
Laser talking religion...it's meant to be a spectator sport, people. Just sit back and be entertained
"Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez
"I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui
Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus
Just because you don't believe it doesn't make it any less valid.
It certainly does when you're debating something. When you're arguing with someone who doesn't share the same faith as you, using an argument based on your faith goes nowhere and you might as well just stay out of the whole thing.
You may not believe that there are numbers, but there are. You might believe that there are numbers, but that 2+2=5. You would be wrong. I "comprende", but I think that you are wrong.
You might believe that homosexuality is a sin, and you would be wrong.
See why it's stupid to have baseless arguments?
I also think that just about everyone who claims to be a Christian today is really a disgrace to true Christians, myself included. But God is merciful, no?
If God was merciful why would he create people such as yourself?
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Originally posted by Rogan Josh
It doesn't matter what his reasons for thinking homosexuality is wrong are! It is his right to hold any opinion he wants.
Nobody has advocated that he be thrown in jail for his beliefs. (Well, maybe Gianfez, but he doesn't count.)
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