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  • You are welcome to evade reality by the use of semantics all you want. Go for it.

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    • to be fair, he was probably refering to Ramo and the others who were in the argument
      Why would he be referring to me?
      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
      -Bokonon

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      • Originally posted by Akka le Vil
        It's perhaps an attempt to be humorous. But if it's not, it clearly shows that you're much more interested sticking blindly to your beliefs rather than evaluating if they're true or false.
        It doesn't matter wether their true or false. I have faith. I believe in what the Bible says, and I am very happy living a Christian lifestyle, thank you very much. End of discussion.
        HAVE A DAY.
        <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
        "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
        For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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        • Originally posted by Cloud9


          It doesn't matter wether their true or false. I have faith. I believe in what the Bible says, and I am very happy living a Christian lifestyle, thank you very much. End of discussion.
          So you don't care if you're right or wrong.
          That has a name : fanatic.
          The exact same kind of people that crashes planes on building.

          PS : AFAIK there is nothing in the Bible that forbid abortion.
          Science without conscience is the doom of the soul.

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          • Looking at Zylka's pictures posted, apart from the centre one, those are very late-term pregnancies, under which conditions abortion is not legal except under medical emergencies (where the pregnancy endangers the life of the mother). The middle foetus didn't look very advanced to me at all...
            Speaking of Erith:

            "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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            • havent the whole thread, but until someone can think for itself, it isnt human

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              • Originally posted by Lincoln
                You are welcome to evade reality by the use of semantics all you want. Go for it.
                You are welcome to call any reasonning an evasion to reality. Go for it. Not that I think you can provide any reasonning anyway.

                I could say that a rock is a human being using your arguments. And when someone would ask me "hu I don't think so, prove me it is" I would tell him "you evade reality with semantic".
                Pityful.
                Science without conscience is the doom of the soul.

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                • I think CivNation is taking a new approach. All this person has done so far is bring up old religious debates.

                  But in a much more peaceful way than CivNation ever did.
                  Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
                  "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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                  • Of course you continue to evade the fact that even by your own definition the innocent are being killed. Why does that not bother you? Is the intellectual excersize more important?

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                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • Originally posted by Akka le Vil
                        So you don't care if you're right or wrong.
                        You know something. I know from the bottom of my heart that people like you are not happy. My eyes and ears have been a witness to this. You feel like there's something missing in your life. You wish you had something more. How do I know? Take a look at this:

                        Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin.--Romans 14:22-23

                        Isn't it obvious? A life of sin is a life of misery. Your lives are like soap operas. You live them from one day to the next faced with one problem after another, with no security, with no reassurance that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

                        That has a name : fanatic.
                        The exact same kind of people that crashes planes on building.
                        Those kind of people are not religious people. They are extremists. They do not really practice a particular faith, but rather bend the rules of a belief system, and do it in the name of a higher being to make their crimes look justified.

                        PS : AFAIK there is nothing in the Bible that forbid abortion.
                        Well, I guess you haven't done enough research, if any at all. Take a look at this:

                        If men fight, and hurt a woman with a child, so that she gives birth prematurely, yet no harm follows, he shall surely be punished accordingly as the woman's husband imposes on him, and he shall pay as the judges determine. But if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.--Exodus 21:12

                        According to this, those who kill the unborn deserve death.

                        Before you were born, I sanctified you.--Jeremiah 1:5

                        God says the unborn are truly sacred.

                        For you formed my inward parts; You covered me in my mother's womb. I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Marvelous are your works, And that my soul knows very well. My frame was not hidden from you, When I was made in secret, And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed. And in your book they all were written, The days fashioned for me, When as yet there were none of them.--Psalm 139:13-16

                        The words me, my, and I mentioned here truly says that God does see the unborn as human beings.
                        HAVE A DAY.
                        <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                        "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                        For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                        • hey cloud9...
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                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • And all of that is based on one assumption.

                            God exists.

                            And in the United States at least such an assumption cannot be made.
                            Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
                            "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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                            • Originally posted by Sava
                              hey cloud9...
                              Not funny Sava. I will NOT decieved by Satan.
                              HAVE A DAY.
                              <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                              "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                              For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                              • Originally posted by Lorizael
                                And all of that is based on one assumption.

                                God exists.

                                And in the United States at least such an assumption cannot be made.
                                I was merely proving to Akka le vil that the Bible does speak against abortion, as he obviously implied that I look it up for him.
                                HAVE A DAY.
                                <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                                "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                                For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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