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    An Unborn Child is in Fact, Human

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    <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
    "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
    For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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    Until a fetus is viable, it is merely an organ of the mother's own body.
    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
    Stadtluft Macht Frei
    Killing it is the new killing it
    Ultima Ratio Regum

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    • #3
      KH

      Cloud9
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #4
        Yeah, sure it's human, what else would it be? That doesn't mean its mother shouldn't call the shots on what's happening with her own body.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Monk
          Yeah, sure it's human, what else would it be? That doesn't mean its mother shouldn't call the shots on what's happening with her own body.
          Well, with that logic, if the mother called the shots, it would constitute murder.
          HAVE A DAY.
          <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
          "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
          For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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          • #6
            Its the mothers body and it's her dicision as to weither or not she has it.
            I have walked since the dawn of time and were ever I walk, death is sure to follow. As surely as night follows day.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cloud9


              Well, with that logic, if the mother called the shots, it would constitute murder.
              Nope.... Euthenasia is not murder. And that's what abortion is.... euthenasia.
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #8
                KH, I'd agree with you - I'd belive you me, I find that fact as incredible as you do. Still, by this definition it's only a question of time before abortion becomes illegal as we push the boundaries of post-natal medicine to save younger and younger babies.

                Over here, amendments to our abortion laws have been discussed, as ab is allowed unconditionally till week 20, while we are now able to save those born on week 21 on routine basis. This can only get "better" when we get uterine replicators.
                "The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
                "I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Deathwalker
                  Its the mothers body and it's her dicision as to weither or not she has it.
                  Woe to that logic, for it is not the mother's body that is at stake here (unless having the baby would put the mother's life in jeapordy), but the life of the unborn child.
                  HAVE A DAY.
                  <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                  "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                  For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                  • #10
                    Well, with that logic, if the mother called the shots, it would constitute murder.

                    It doesn't matter the slightest which label you choose to apply.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sava
                      Nope.... Euthenasia is not murder. And that's what abortion is.... euthenasia.
                      Anything that constitutes intentionally ending the life in a human being is murder.
                      HAVE A DAY.
                      <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                      "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                      For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                      • #12
                        If it's a uterine replicator then it's not yet an independent organism either.

                        Christ, I'd allow abortions to end of 2nd trimester, even though some are already able to pull through if born prior to that...
                        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                        Stadtluft Macht Frei
                        Killing it is the new killing it
                        Ultima Ratio Regum

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                        • #13
                          Anything that constitutes intentionally ending the life in a human being is murder




                          Go get a law book.
                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                          Stadtluft Macht Frei
                          Killing it is the new killing it
                          Ultima Ratio Regum

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                          • #14
                            Personally, I don't care about the human bodies, it's the mind that matters. You don't get a functioning mind (what could be called sentience) until the third trimestre, so anything before that... pfffrp.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cloud9


                              Anything that constitutes intentionally ending the life in a human being is murder.
                              Nope... not in the eyes of God. If an animal is in pain and you end its life, that is not murder. If a human being is in pain and you end its life, that is not murder. Try reading the bible more. The commandment doesn't say "Thou shall not kill"... if says "Thou shall not murder". I know you want to get on your high horse and ride this moral crusade, Cloud9. Unfortunately, you are wrong. And every theologin would agree with me.

                              The need for abortion is simple. If a child is going to grow up in an environment without love, especially where it is unwanted, it would live a life of pain and emotional turmoil. It is more humane to spare that existence. A soul isn't automatically created at conception. It grows and develops in time.
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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