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  • #361
    Originally posted by Sava
    So use your brain, don't lose it in the bible, and don't abuse your brain by putting the bible before it. When you crash into the truth, it will hurt .
    Apparently not.
    HAVE A DAY.
    <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
    "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
    For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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    • #362
      You apparently have no respect for religious folks, Sava.
      HAVE A DAY.
      <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
      "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
      For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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      • #363
        Actually, most of my family is religious (Eastern Orthodox), but fortunately, they make their decisions with their brains, and leave their faith in their hearts, where it belongs.

        I have no respect for religious folks who make decisions with their faith instead of their brains. The most infamous being the 9-11 hijackers.

        Believe it or not, I'm deeply religious, but I keep my faith in my heart also. I'm an agnostic BTW, I've read the scriptures of Buddha, Dao, Confucious, some Hindu, the Christian bible, the Torah, the Qu'ran, ancient mythologies, and even many Native American cultures' beliefs about spirituality. Combined with my own experience, I've learn that they are myth, and are to be understood in idea, but not practiced literally. It's a shame you aren't as well read. You really should open your mind. There's more to life than the Bible.
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #364
          Cloud9, you've demonstrated no respect for non-religious folks, essentially saying they are the pawns of Satan trying to convince you of things that contradict your faith.

          You have to earn respect, Coud9, and you have done nothing to merit it so far.
          Tutto nel mondo è burla

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          • #365
            Originally posted by Sava
            I have no respect for religious folks who make decisions with their faith instead of their brains. The most infamous being the 9-11 hijackers.
            Then it is confirmed. If you can't have respect for people of faith, then there is no point in us continuing to have any conversation with each other. Therefore I am putting you on my Ignore List, as God forbid that have any kind of association with such people.

            BTW, not all people of faith go to the extreme like the 9-11 hijackers did. Most of them are people with good hearts and deserve to be respected for it. Those that commit crimes in the name of religion do not deserve any kind of respect.

            This conversation is officially over.
            HAVE A DAY.
            <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
            "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
            For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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            • #366
              Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


              Nahh. He only does that for simple minded superstitious people. You've got a brain, an education and all the advantages any human being could ever have, so he's letting you make up your own mind for better or worse.


              Jon Miller
              Jon Miller-
              I AM.CANADIAN
              GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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              • #367
                Originally posted by Cloud9


                Then it is confirmed. If you can't have respect for people of faith, then there is no point in us continuing to have any conversation with each other. Therefore I am putting you on my Ignore List, as God forbid that have any kind of association with such people.

                BTW, not all people of faith go to the extreme like the 9-11 hijackers did. Most of them are people with good hearts and deserve to be respected for it. Those that commit crimes in the name of religion do not deserve any kind of respect.

                This conversation is officially over.
                Still the same childish crisis and denial.
                "If it's not like I want then I refuse to see it !"
                *puts hands on eyes and starts pouting*

                This guy is hopeless, i'm afraid.
                Science without conscience is the doom of the soul.

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                • #368
                  I'm not sure if I can buy this arguement that once a mind (biological) is formed it means that it is immoral to kill a creature.

                  After all, do not cats and dogs have minds? Don't cows and lambs have mind? It is not the pressence of a mind which is the essence of humanity.

                  The ability to question ones enviornment which constitutes the essence of humanity.

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                  • #369
                    Cloud9, this may have been answered before (I didn't read this huge thread), but what's the Christian view if a woman is raped? Is abortion allowed? And if a woman has some sort of condition where labor or pregnancy could be fatal?
                    Judaism has a pretty liberal view on abortion apparently. In those situations, abortion is definitely allowed. I think abortion in general is allowed as well.
                    "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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                    • #370
                      Originally posted by Cloud9
                      Those who have sex should know the risks.
                      From what sources? It's not the US schools have good sex education.

                      Originally posted by Cloud9
                      Sex doesn't just happen on it's own. People have to make it happen.
                      So? Aeroplanes need people to fly them too. Sex does not happen by accident, pregnancies do. You have admitted that contraceptives are not 100%, now that you're backing out.

                      Originally posted by Cloud9
                      The pleasures of sex are not worth the risk of an STD. Not knowing your partner well enough to know wether they have any diseases or not IS irresponsible.
                      Red herring.

                      Originally posted by Cloud9
                      I shouldn't need a source here, UR. Just think about my logic why don't you. Most transmissions of STD's are a result of people not knowing their partner well enough to know wether they have any diseases or not. 'Nuff said.
                      If you don't have a source, you're just blindly asserting.
                      (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                      (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                      (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                      • #371
                        Originally posted by Cloud9
                        Regardless of all the controvesary about wether or not an unborn child is human, I think that my argument that abolishing abortion to be used as a means to deter the spread of STD's is a strong one, and thus justifies the abolition of abortion.
                        No, it's just a red herring.

                        An unsubstantiated red herring no less.
                        (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                        (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                        (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                        • #372
                          Originally posted by Stefu
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                          (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                          (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                          (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                          • #373
                            Originally posted by Lincoln
                            Of course you continue to evade the fact that even by your own definition the innocent are being killed. Why does that not bother you? Is the intellectual excersize more important?
                            Innocent what? Human beings? This is exactly the point pro-lifers yet to have establish. The rest is just a heap of fallacies.
                            (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                            (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                            (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                            • #374
                              Originally posted by Cloud9
                              I can answer almost any question about the Bible. The funny thing is, I base my answers on faith before fact knowing deep down inside that there is a spiritual answer for everything.
                              Apparently, you don't know what theologians are.

                              Originally posted by Cloud9
                              And by God's grace I find an answer every time.
                              Doesn't mean those answers are correct.

                              Originally posted by Cloud9
                              Sounds like faith has a big impact on a person, doesn't it?
                              Yes it does. It makes a person oblivious.
                              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                              (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                              (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                              • #375
                                Cloud9, you do realize that the bible quotes you posted are perfectly compatible with Akkas viewpoint.

                                For example, 'You were with me in the womb' (quoting from memory, please correct me if I misquoted) could very well be referring to a fetus, but not an embryo.

                                Knowing != understanding...
                                Gnu Ex Machina - the Gnu in the Machine

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