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  • Originally posted by Akka le Vil


    It's more because no pro-lifer COULD disprove them.
    Because they have nothing to back up their position than blind faith.
    In other words : because they are wrong.

    I'm all ready to change my mind. Just PROVE me you're right.
    Too bad no one even tried to do this

    (I can see it coming : "because you won't change your mind/you're stubborn/etc." ; the problem is : it's false. I'm totally ready to change my mind if a pro-lifer prove me I'm wrong. The only problem is that they just can't, because they are the one wrong. Or else, they will prove it )
    You have taken the content of any statements that pro-lifers have made on this thread and turned them into something else entirely.

    You have repeated the same arguments over and over again, in a continuos never ending loop.

    You have been very moody and that implies that your beliefs are based on senseless negative emotions.

    This is implies that you refuse to listen to any statements I make, making it pointless to continue this debate between you and I, and therefore you should be. . .

    IGNORED!!!

    You are now on my Ignore List. It's all over, buddy. Aren't you happy?
    HAVE A DAY.
    <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
    "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
    For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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    • Well if the fear of God is not enough for you, let's talk strictly on a practical sense.

      Let's get one point done first.

      Is the fetus without a doubt a human?

      there's no point in continuing the discussion without asserting this fact first.

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      • Originally posted by Sava
        Get a life cloud9, think for yourself, and don't be so gullible to believe in this invisible man who knows all, is everywhere, yet offers no proof of his existence, makes you burn in hell if you're bad, yet still loves you.
        You're quite moody, aren't you Sava. Earlier you were saying how theologians were very smart people, now you're condemning every bit of logic we tell you. Are you sure your not manic depressive?

        edit: I am a religious person and a theologian, btw.
        Last edited by Mr. Nice Guy; July 5, 2002, 22:16.
        HAVE A DAY.
        <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
        "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
        For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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        • Originally posted by Cloud9
          You have taken the content of any statements that pro-lifers have made on this thread and turned them into something else entirely.
          False.

          You have repeated the same arguments over and over again, in a continuos never ending loop.
          Sure. As long as they are not disproven, I don't see why I would even need more argument. Seeing pro-lifers avoiding them is a good hint that they are quite right. You don't prove you're right by ignoring the proofs you are being presented, you know ?

          You have been very moody and that implies that your beliefs are based on senseless negative emotions.
          Attack on the morality of the poster because you have nothing else left ?

          This is implies that you refuse to listen to any statements I make, making it pointless to continue this debate between you and I, and therefore you should be. . .
          I accept statements, I just wait for you to do some, rather than just say "I'm right because I have the faith", which is, you know, not a very good proof.

          IGNORED!!!

          You are now on my Ignore List. It's all over, buddy. Aren't you happy?
          Yes, blind yourself because you can't bear the truth.
          It's much easier than proving you're right - especially when you aren't.
          Science without conscience is the doom of the soul.

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          • Originally posted by DarthVeda


            Well if the fear of God is not enough for you, let's talk strictly on a practical sense.

            Let's get one point done first.

            Is the fetus without a doubt a human?

            there's no point in continuing the discussion without asserting this fact first.
            It's the basis of my whole argumentation : the embryo is not a human being, or else aborting it would be murder. Already posted twice the same post. I trust you'll have a look on the previous pages and won't ask me to post it again.
            Science without conscience is the doom of the soul.

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            • You are not a theologian cloud9.... at least not a professional one. You might be a self-proclaimed theologian. Do you have a PhD? Do you teach at a university? I doubt it... but I admit, I could be mistaken.
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • Originally posted by Sava
                You are not a theologian cloud9....
                I can answer almost any question about the Bible. The funny thing is, I base my answers on faith before fact knowing deep down inside that there is a spiritual answer for everything. And by God's grace I find an answer every time. Sounds like faith has a big impact on a person, doesn't it?
                HAVE A DAY.
                <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                • That's not faith having an impact on you, that's stupidity.
                  Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                  • I thank our fore-fathers for writing the first amendment so that zealots like you can't run the country with your bibles instead of your brains. God gave you a brain, the bible doesn't tell you that. You can use it, lose it, or abuse it.

                    So use your brain, don't lose it in the bible, and don't abuse your brain by putting the bible before it. When you crash into the truth, it will hurt .
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • Originally posted by Sava
                      hey cloud9...
                      So Sava, since abortion certainly prevents the baby from ever having a chance to reproduce are you proposing that people who have an abortion be neutered?
                      "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                      • Yeah, that's right
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • Originally posted by Sava
                          cloud9 can you read? God knows that not everyone believes that the bible is his word (like me for instance) if he really existed, he would offer proof to his existence in the form of a giant booming voice for all to hear, or a large burning bush.
                          Nahh. He only does that for simple minded superstitious people. You've got a brain, an education and all the advantages any human being could ever have, so he's letting you make up your own mind for better or worse.
                          "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                          • Yeah, that's the point...
                            To us, it is the BEAST.

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                            • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
                              . . .so he's letting you make up your own mind for better or worse.
                              Exactly.

                              I hope you are thinking the same way of me, Sava.
                              HAVE A DAY.
                              <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                              "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                              For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                              • That's the problem, though, cloud9. You said that your faith makes your decisions, not your brain. Way to go!
                                To us, it is the BEAST.

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