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  • #31
    When will the U.S. fall? God knows. No current trends or imbalances will make it fall but they might weaken it.

    1) How long will America remain the safe haven for investment? This is the weakest leg on which American prosperity rests, an eventual devaluation of the currency could cause this to happen. As will the eventual ill effects of high consumer debt.

    2) The first point leads into the second point, and that is the increasing disparity between the rich and the poor. This will eventually lead to a strengthing of the class oriented policies, which will mean a rise in wages but might hurt return on investments.

    3) Baby boomer time bomb. Europe has got this worse than the U.S., but the Ponzi schemes are going to run out, which will cause a change in current social security and pension policies. Given the strength of the senior citizen lobby, I'd expect an increase in the current tax. Companies who still run a defined benefit pension will be hurting (See American Steel) but pensioners under defined contributions will demand an increase from the public purse.

    4) The increasing cost of medical, the US already spends more per GDP then any other country this isn't going to change. Once again the Babyboomer timebomb will force the issue, hopefully there will be some kind of tort reform decreasing the rate of medical inflation.

    As with all future prediction I'd have just as much success splitting open the guts of livestock or staring at the stars.
    Accidently left my signature in this post.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Sprayber

      Why?


      Teasing at first. But seeing how few people can grasp the concept of humour, I start to feel that it would perhaps be a good thing.
      Science without conscience is the doom of the soul.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Akka le Vil




        Teasing at first. But seeing how few people can grasp the concept of humour, I start to feel that it would perhaps be a good thing.

        Grasping humor is easy. I was just curious.
        Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Sprayber

          Grasping humor is easy. I was just curious.
          Tsk tsk...
          You KNOW, I'm sure, that most words ending in "or" can be written "our" or "or" depending on the use of the american spelling or the english one.
          Try : color/colour, labor/labour, humor/humour...

          Science without conscience is the doom of the soul.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Akka le Vil


            Tsk tsk...
            You KNOW, I'm sure, that most words ending in "or" can be written "our" or "or" depending on the use of the american spelling or the english one.
            Try : color/colour, labor/labour, humor/humour...

            '


            I've heard that the Aussies are beginning to come over to our spelling now. It's only a matter of time when the Canadians will be on the minority side of the English language. Americanish is on the rise.
            Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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            • #36
              How will it end?

              With a big bang.

              RAH
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Ecthelion
                Wrong. America will fall when America explodes.
                Ossama you are just jealous of our indoor plumbing.

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                • #38
                  bypassing the propability that this song is yetanother dirty turkish propaganda

                  Istanbul was Constantinople
                  Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
                  Been a long time gone, Constantinople
                  Now it's Turkish delight on a moon-lit night
                  Every gal in Constantinople
                  lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
                  so if you've got a date in Constantinople
                  she'll be waiting in Istanbul
                  Even old New York
                  was once New Amsterdam
                  Why they changed it I can't say
                  People just liked it better that way
                  So take me back to Constantinople
                  No, you can't go back to Constantinople
                  Been a long time gone, Constantinople
                  Why did Constantinople get the works?
                  That's nobody's business but the Turks
                  Istanbul


                  I have to say that this is a very cute way for an empire to end

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Lemmy
                    ok, then what about the (planned?) tax increase on imported steel, that's a start of the world no longer trading with the US...
                    What about a Eurocom tax on the entire internet? I would call that a tad bit more onerous than a tax on steel.
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • #40
                      Re: bypassing the propability that this song is yetanother dirty turkish propaganda

                      Originally posted by paiktis22
                      Istanbul was Constantinople
                      Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
                      Been a long time gone, Constantinople
                      Now it's Turkish delight on a moon-lit night
                      Every gal in Constantinople
                      lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
                      so if you've got a date in Constantinople
                      she'll be waiting in Istanbul
                      Even old New York
                      was once New Amsterdam
                      Why they changed it I can't say
                      People just liked it better that way
                      So take me back to Constantinople
                      No, you can't go back to Constantinople
                      Been a long time gone, Constantinople
                      Why did Constantinople get the works?
                      That's nobody's business but the Turks
                      Istanbul


                      I have to say that this is a very cute way for an empire to end
                      what's the name of the song? artist?

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                      • #41
                        Re: Re: bypassing the propability that this song is yetanother dirty turkish propaganda

                        Originally posted by Ecthelion


                        what's the name of the song? artist?
                        Istanbul (not Constantinople) by They Might Be Giants.

                        And read this and then tell me there isn't a God:

                        when I was outside Aghia Sophia in Constantinople and I was about to go inside for the first time I heard this very song!!!
                        (from a kiosk!!!!!!)

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                        • #42
                          so? I once heard Toccata and Fugue in d minor by Bach played by an organist inside of the Berlin Cathedral when standing before it. That was fun.

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                          • #43
                            what's the comparison?

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                            • #44
                              hearing a song in front of a church, common point there

                              and while I had fun, your story is boring

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                              • #45
                                there I was a Greek lad ready to go to the captured! most magnificent cathedral ever produced by Orthodox Greece and just as I was ready to go inside I heard that it was Istanbul not Constantinople.

                                That was fun

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