Does Pi contain my phone number.

[Inverse Icarus]

realitivity.... pi can be any number if you take it from the right angle. even (as the bible says) 3. i'm not a physics ace or anything, but i have some friends who speak nothing but physics-ese who try to make me smart.

[connorkimbro]

I'm gonna invent a new type of computer that uses every digit (0-9) instead of just 1's and 0's . . . and then try and open Pi in Notepad, to see what happens.

[Guest]

orange be careful
as i said that particular string only seems special to you and us but in fact there is NOTHING particular about it
just like the number 123456789 may seem like a special number but try writing it in base 13 and tell me whats special about it
that string you mentionned will appear like any other one
theres nothing special about such a string apperaing if theres nothing more special infinetly afterwards

[Ari Rahikkala]

Just one thing about pi... Because of its nature, it's inevitable that an approximation of pi, when being calculated to infinite lengths, will seem to repeat itself - twice, thrice, three billion times, Graham's number times, all but infinitely. True? I assume there is a good reason to say that pi isn't a rational number... err... I forgot the point I was trying to get across .

[Sarxis]

I think the problem with Pi is that no one can tell you what numbers will appear in the pattern, until they pull out a pencil and some paper.

[MrBaggins]

los alamos, and bell are working on that connorkimbro; quantum computers that truely understand numbers and mathematical problems.

[Ecthy]

111 (10) = 1101111 (2)

111 (2) = 7 (10)

[orange]

Originally posted by LulThyme
orange be careful
as i said that particular string only seems special to you and us but in fact there is NOTHING particular about it
just like the number 123456789 may seem like a special number but try writing it in base 13 and tell me whats special about it
that string you mentionned will appear like any other one
theres nothing special about such a string apperaing if theres nothing more special infinetly afterwards

I'm not saying it 'won't' but I am saying that it's more likely for conner's phone number to appear than it is for 12345678987654321 (repeated a thousand times over) to occur because of the SIZE of the number and repatative nature of the integer.

[Ecthy]

what is graham's number? like avogadro's number? the american version of it?

[Thue]

Re: yes echtelion

Originally posted by LulThyme
actually mr baggins im not sure if there is one
i recall reading something about this but i would check
pi's decimals are pseudo random thats for sure
I THINK its been proven than all irrationnal number's decimal expnasion must contain all finite string of numbers.
let me get back on this

I read too that pi had the property that any finite string occurs somewhere.

I am however sure that not all irrationel numbers contains all strings. Remember that rationel numbers written as decimals repeat at some point (easy to see when you make the division). Take the number 0,1010010001... , which does not repeat itself and so is not rationel, ie it is irrational. But it does not contain the string "9".

[MrBaggins]

Originally posted by LightEning
Just one thing about pi... Because of its nature, it's inevitable that an approximation of pi, when being calculated to infinite lengths, will seem to repeat itself - twice, thrice, three billion times, Graham's number times, all but infinitely. True? I assume there is a good reason to say that pi isn't a rational number... err... I forgot the point I was trying to get across .

Infinite 'things' cannot repeat.

[Ecthy]

orange, it is only repetitive in a decimal code...

[orange]

Re: Re: yes echtelion

Originally posted by Thue


I read too that pi had the property that any finite string occurs somewhere.

I am however sure that not all irrationel numbers contains all strings. Remember that rationel numbers written as decimals repeat at some point (easy to see when you make the division). Take the number 0,1010010001... , which does not repeat itself and so is not rationel, ie it is irrational. But it does not contain the string "9".

BINGO! My point exactly.

[Ecthy]

what a number would that be? now I see, you have just made up an irrational number... hmm...

[orange]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
orange, it is only repetitive in a decimal code...

irrelevant. If we say that it does not repeat in a decimal code, and have no reason to believe otherwise, why should we suddenly say that it not only can but does? And with an infinite number of combinations?