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  • #76
    Originally posted by Caesar the Great
    i'll assume there has to be
    Just because there is an infinite amount of space OR matter does NOT mean that there has to be an infinite repetition of everything possible.

    It is possible that there could be an infinite number of earth repilcas, and no this could not be disproven assuming an infinite universe, but I don't see why it MUST be true.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Caesar the Great
      i'll assume there has to be
      Ahh! Modern science at work.

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      • #78
        i no see no monkey...

        infinity has to be the most messed up number... well besides e^pi*i
        I'm 49% Apathetic, 23% Indifferent, 46% Redundant, 26% Repetative and 45% Mathetically Deficient.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Anunikoba


          No, there is no proof of that; see my post about the monkeys a few paces back.

          And there is no such thing as random anyhow; the system generating the randomness determines the pattern.

          That's how high-tech crooks can win at digital Keno everytime. And it is also true in nature.
          Not entirely true. Humans have difficulty of conceiving random systems, due to the limitations of what we have to work with.

          QED provides us with, in every demonstratable behavioral study, random behavior.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by orange


            Just because there is an infinite amount of space OR matter does NOT mean that there has to be an infinite repetition of everything possible.

            It is possible that there could be an infinite number of earth repilcas, and no this could not be disproven assuming an infinite universe, but I don't see why it MUST be true.
            because if infinity doesn't contain everything it isn't infinity...

            of course the counterarguement is does infinity contain itself which leads to a very interesting proof about the non-existance of the universe...
            I'm 49% Apathetic, 23% Indifferent, 46% Redundant, 26% Repetative and 45% Mathetically Deficient.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Caesar the Great


              because if infinity doesn't contain everything it isn't infinity...

              of course the counterarguement is does infinity contain itself which leads to a very interesting proof about the non-existance of the universe...
              how many times do I have to say this... no. Infinity contains merely itself. Just a singular unreal infinite set.

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              • #82
                Does the "what do you look like" thread contain a picture of Caesar? No!

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by MrBaggins


                  Not entirely true. Humans have difficulty of conceiving random systems, due to the limitations of what we have to work with.

                  QED provides us with, in every demonstratable behavioral study, random behavior.
                  the only way the universe can be random is if it is infinite... if you had a finite universe you could simply take a really really powerful computer and input all the variables and you'd be able to predict the future (which of course only brings up more problems)
                  I'm 49% Apathetic, 23% Indifferent, 46% Redundant, 26% Repetative and 45% Mathetically Deficient.

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                  • #84
                    Quanta exist in Quantum fields which are infinite.

                    There are forwards-recursive infinite states. Everything happens, and keeps on recursively happening.

                    We only perceive one of those realities.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by MrBaggins


                      how many times do I have to say this... no. Infinity contains merely itself. Just a singular unreal infinite set.
                      question... are there more rational or irrational numbers? (i know the answer i'm just not sure why its true)
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                      • #86
                        what do you mean more?

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by MrBaggins
                          Quanta exist in Quantum fields which are infinite.

                          There are forwards-recursive infinite states. Everything happens, and keeps on recursively happening.

                          We only perceive one of those realities.
                          i guess we're just taken from one of those realities to another and that is consciousness... although wouldn't an exact copy of you be stuck somewhere (or more appropriately somewhen) at a point in time for eternity....
                          I'm 49% Apathetic, 23% Indifferent, 46% Redundant, 26% Repetative and 45% Mathetically Deficient.

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                          • #88
                            A number that can be expressed as a fraction where p and q are integers and , is called a rational number with numerator p and denominator q. Numbers which are not rational are called irrational numbers. The set of all rational numbers is referred to as the "rationals," and forms a field that is denoted Q. Any rational number is trivially also an algebraic number. The set of rational numbers is denoted Rationals in Mathematica, and a number x can be tested to see if it is rational using the command Element[x, Rationals].




                            The elementary algebraic operations for combining rational numbers are exactly the same as for combining fractions.




                            It is always possible to find another rational number between any two members of the set of rationals. Therefore, rather counterintuitively, the rational numbers are a continuous set, but at the same time countable.




                            For a, b, and c any different rational numbers, then




                            is the square of a rational number (Honsberger 1991).



                            The probability that a random rational number has an even denominator is 1/3 (Salamin and Gosper 1972).




                            It is conjectured that if there exists a real number x for which both and are integers, then x is rational. This result would follow from the four exponentials conjecture (Finch).
                            Last edited by MrBaggins; April 25, 2002, 17:05.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by MrBaggins
                              what do you mean more?
                              say you have a number line from negative infinity to infinity and you made a point for each rational number and each irrational number, the set of points for the rational numbers is A and the set of points for the irrational numbers is B. are there more elements in set A or set B?
                              I'm 49% Apathetic, 23% Indifferent, 46% Redundant, 26% Repetative and 45% Mathetically Deficient.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by MrBaggins
                                Quanta exist in Quantum fields which are infinite.

                                There are forwards-recursive infinite states. Everything happens, and keeps on recursively happening.

                                We only perceive one of those realities.
                                Sooo.. if a tree falls in a forest, and no one is around to hear it, then does it make a sound?

                                Or, if a Quanta exists in a different reality, and we can't percieve that reality, does it exist at all?

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