The Best And The Worst Of Your Countries History.

[Eli]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
1) Sanhedrin's "judgement" of Jesus.

Agreed.

2) Isreali genocide of the Canaanites.

Nah... Everyone were doing this in those times.

3) Sicarii & Zealot terrorism against Rome.

In some way... Yes. But no.

I can go on if you wish.

I'm waiting.

[General Ludd]

I don't think Canada has a best or worst time, we've got an all around mediocre history.


But if I had to choose, It'd be the early days of colonization and fur trade, which would get the title of best and worst.

[November Adam]

Originally posted by Osweld
I don't think Canada has a best or worst time, we've got an all around mediocre history.


But if I had to choose, It'd be the early days of colonization and fur trade, which would get the title of best and worst.

Sure we have a good point... Vimy Ridge.. this helped define our nation, as well as all of the peace keeping actions we have done.

Worst would have to be the internment of the Japenese-Canadians during WW2.

[Bereta_Eder]

best: I don't want to bring the server down again

worst: I don't want to bring the server down again

[Drekkus]

Originally posted by November Adam
Sure we have a good point... Vimy Ridge.. this helped define our nation, as well as all of the peace keeping actions we have done.

What's Vimy Ridge? Sounds like some french guy in the Bold and the Beautifull.

[Ecthy]

in other words paiktis your country suffers absolute lack of personalities

Iskander should do for the worst, now think of someone good

[Buck Birdseed]

Best: the "swedish model"- the economic and social policy pursued by the government from the end of the second world war to the late seventies. At the end of that period Sweden was one of the most prosperous countries in the world, and managed to combine thriving industry with unparallelled social justice, great education, and low unemployment. Then it collapsed due to the stupid semi-Keynesian attempt at dealing with the recession. Oh well. Runner-up: The swedish internationalist foreign policy during the seventies and eighties, instrumental in bringing down the Apartheid regime in South Africa and one of the few western countries corageous enough to denounce The Vietnam War and the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian homeland.

Worst: I'd have to argue for Herman Lundborg's "Racial Hygene" experiments at the start of the last century. Pre-nazi racist ideology at its worst, and sweden was at the "forefront" of this "science". I'm also not a big fan of Sweden's second world-war policy, effective though it was at keeping us out of the war at all times. Basically involving grovelling at the feet of Hitler at the start of the war, supplying him with materials and transportation and then "switching sides" (while maintaining "neutrality") mid-war and grovelling to Churchill/Stalin instead.

[Bereta_Eder]

clarification:

best: they are too many to mention here and I don't have the time now.



worst: we did have our screw ups in our history too (with lots of... external help...)


edit: as for what is the absolute best or worst, I wouldn't even dare to think about giving an asnwer to that one right now! Needs lots of thinking


in any case on the top of my hat...!


best: Pericles' Golden Era of Athens and Alexander the Great reconquest of Asia. Longlivity of Byzantium. Modern: War of independece, defeat of Italians in WW2, rapid economic growth in the '60, bringing up Greece from a devastated land after the ottoman occupation to a modern (more or less!) european country and the EU.


worst: fragility of Athenian democracy and the order for genocide of the people of Mylos IIRC (was not carried out though), Persian ransacking. 4th crusades, fall of Constantinople. Modern: 1922 screw up, Junta, Cyprus. (as I said we did our share too but were pawns in big powers hands also).

[Playa del Carmen]

High point- One of them would be during World War II, I suppose. Something like that.

Low point- One of them would be the Trail of Tears. I don't really like Andrew Jackson because of that. There are others, but at the moment, it sticks out to me.

[Seeker]

Canada:

Bests:
Standing up to Britain and France in 1956 over Suez Crisis. First UN intervention.
Building the CPR.
Public health care.
Battles for Passchandael, Ortona, Vimy, etc.
On to Ottawa Trek 1931 (from the people)

Worsts:
Immigration Policy 1933-1958; more (ex)Nazis than jews were allowed.
Co-operation in CIA experiments on mental patients in the 70s.
Treatment of native population in British Columbia 1890-1900.
NEP.
An almost entirely one-sided NAFTA.
On to Ottawa Trek 1931 (from the gov'mnt)

[Dr. Nick]

For Germany, the best moment has to be Sedan!

[August Borms]

Belgium:

worst: The independence of Belgium. Really useless, and the continuation of the oppression of the Flemish people by the Walloons and our foreign kings.

best: what kolpo said about the Benelux/EU

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly

I'm not trolling, I'm just curious: do you and/or Belgians generally consider this worse than Belgium's atrocities in the Congo?

You have to remember that the atrocities you speak of were comitted under King Leopold II and at that time the Congo wasn't a Belgian colony, it was the private property of King Leopold II until he died in 1909.

I am not aware of any major atrocities between 1909-1960, when the Congo was a Belgian colony.

[November Adam]

Originally posted by Drekkus


What's Vimy Ridge? Sounds like some french guy in the Bold and the Beautifull.

Here's a link to a bit of the history of Vimy Ridge.

http://www.canadagoose.net/albvimy.htm

In short, Vimy Ridge was a German defensive position, that was taken by Canadian batallions after British, and French forces failed to do so.

[November Adam]

Oh another one of Canada's best moments was the Terry Fox run.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by November Adam


Sure we have a good point... Vimy Ridge.. this helped define our nation, as well as all of the peace keeping actions we have done.

People always say that, but why? What's so grand about vimy ridge? Why does being able to kill people that the other allies couldn't, define our nation? If we are defined by a gruesome battle, that doesn't say much.


I thought about the 'On to Ottawa Trek' but figured that in the great scope of things it wasn't that important, and most people don't even remember it (infact, I didn't know about it untill I saw a documentary about it a couple months ago...) I 'spose that is the case with all Canadian history and identity, though.

The CPR would be another one of those "best and worst" cases, if you ask me.