Fellow E. Europeans - let's show our gratitude to the west by posting "thanks" here!

[KrazyHorse]

Oh Lord...

Lordy Lordy Lord.

Western interventions in the regions alluded to had precious little to do with ideology and a great deal to do with geopolitics. In some of the places named, >30% of the population died as a result of said interventions. But hey, what do I know; American support for the Khmer Rouge, despite its self-styled Communist basis and proven murderousness was for the greater good.

[Roman]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


Oh Lord...

Lordy Lordy Lord.

Sorry, I don't believe in God.

Western interventions in the regions alluded to had precious little to do with ideology and a great deal to do with geopolitics.

Perhaps, but it does not mean the people in these countries now prefer Communism, does it?

In some of the places named, >30% of the population died as a result of said interventions. But hey, what do I know; American support for the Khmer Rouge, despite its self-styled Communist basis and proven murderousness was for the greater good.

Khmer Rouge is one of your beloved Communist regimes that I do not support inn any way.

[Berzerker]

Dinodoc -

Ayn Rand doesn't have much of any signifigance to say in the way of ethics, connor

You're wrong! "Objectivism"/freedom is the most ethical system there is... Name a system that is more ethical...

[KrazyHorse]

Roman

That's all right. You don't have to seriously respond if you don't feel capable of doing so..

[Roman]

Re: Roman

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
That's all right. You don't have to seriously respond if you don't feel capable of doing so..

??? ???

Please explain?

[Roman]

Back to the original topic

E. Europeans - here is a place to express your gratitude for what the West has done for us.

[Victor Galis]

What should we be greatful for? For being sold out at Yalta? Or for the misery that has come with the sudden shift to capitalism

[Roman]

Originally posted by Victor Galis
What should we be greatful for? For being sold out at Yalta? Or for the misery that has come with the sudden shift to capitalism

The West could not really do much at Yalta. It had to give a sphere of influence to the Russians.

As for the economic misery from the sudden shift to capitalism, it was a neccessary adjustement process and things are now improving at a rapid pace. Moreover, even though our incomes are only somewhat greater than during Communism, they are growing much faster and we have far greater economic choice. We also have much more freedom and many people use it fully to whine about their predicament, totally disregarding their past, much worse, situation. Do not forget that if it weren't for the collapse of the represive Communist regimes, we couldn't even be here to talk about it.

[Saras]

Well, yes thanx for recognizing us after USSR fell.

Where were you during the fifty years?

I'll tell you where - in CIA and British intelligence planes, dropping leaflets promising to invade and liberate us, fueling the hopes of 40000+ young men in the forests and leading them to their certain deaths at the hands of NKVD.

No thanks for that. Otherwise, thanks for your timely support of Gorbys reforms that were the ultimate nail in the coffin of the USSR. There is a poem by a Lithuanian classic Maironis that says "You can't stop the river..." etc. Well, you can't, but thanks for helping us break the dam - saved me at least the best 5 years of my life.

[Sprayber]

I think that people should notice that those who are so gung ho about communism are those who enjoy the freedoms of a democracy. Those that actually lived under the system don't seem to care for it much.

I should say that communism was no doubt pretty damned good for those in power.

[Bereta_Eder]

...

Roman,
can you tell me to which university you are going to? (does it have something to do with Goerge Soros?)

I see a very clear pattern being formed here...

[axi]

Maybe you should dedicate them a "Thank you day", kinda like, Mother's day.
You can make pretty drawings and paper flowers and hand them out to your favorite western benefactor.
You can even make them a cake, with a big "THANK YOU MAMA WEST" written on it.

YUCK! I'll get sick....

[Rogan Josh]

Re: This is not sarcasm!

Originally posted by Roman
I am dismayed by how many people on these boards support Communism and would like us to suffer its rule under the false impression that we would like to live under Communism.

You should be thankful to communism. Your people lived for many years under a totalitarian dictatorship which just happened to run a command economy (and hence be called 'communist'). If they had been capitalist (but still at odds with the west) they would still be there. It was the inefficiencies of a command economy which lead to their downfall - not the west.

Capitalism is more evil than communism in my book - at least communism, in principle, is supposed to promote equality. That evil bastardisation of communism in the USSR and its satelites should not really be regarded as 'communism'. But pure, unleashed capitalism would provide even greater misery for the masses. Mixed economies, like we have in the west, are the way to go.

[Ted Striker]

Some you guys amaze me...

Of course that purging of several million of your own people thing is no big deal.

Communism...real great...

[Sikander]

You are welcome. I spent several years in the army trying to thwart the Soviet Union and communism in general, and my motivation was the many people I met who either suffered under the yoke of communism or were glad that they were part of a system of collective defense which protected them from it.