Fellow E. Europeans - let's show our gratitude to the west by posting "thanks" here!

[Roman]

As an Eastern European, I would like to express my gratitude to the West in general and the US in particular for freeing us from the communist oppression. I am aware this required considerable sacrifices on your part and that we will never be able to fully pay you back this "moral debt" - all we can do is say "thank you"!

I hope other people from the former Communist Block will join me and show Western Europe and the US that we appreciate what they have done for us.

[connorkimbro]

can't tell if this is sarcasm or not

uhhh. . okay. .

[orange]

I'm fairly sure he's quite serious.

[KrazyHorse]

Fellow Viet Namese-let's show our gratitude to the west by posting "F*** You" here

Cambodians, Laotians, Malayans, Timorese, Nicaraguans, Guatemalans, Cubans, Grenadans, Arabs, Jews, Maoris and Zulus are welcome too.

[Roman]

This is not sarcasm!

I am dismayed by how many people on these boards support Communism and would like us to suffer its rule under the false impression that we would like to live under Communism. Hence, I thought it appropriate to show that we actually appreciate what the free world had done for us and are thankful for all the efforts and sacrifices West has made for our liberation. IMO this was very noble and selfless.

[connorkimbro]

if so then. .

cool, i guess. not quite sure how to respond though. i didn't do anything.

i mean, i support you guys 100%, i'm completely opposed to communism and socialism in all it's many forms but. . well, heck, what did we really do? it was a coup in russia that did it. communism did itself in and all.

[connorkimbro]

IMO this was very noble and selfless

heh, "selfless" is a communist ideal. (read Ayn Rand if you want to know what i mean, i don't feel like explaining it right now )

but it's cool that you are saying it though. at least one of you has some sense. the rest of europe it seems, are all bleeding heart liberals (liberal in the american sense).

[orange]

Communism is a nice theory, but can't be run by men in large societies.

Socialism can and has been used successfully...it's what America should be leaning towards, yet we still cling to this idea of a wide separation of classes. Capitalism has brought America to where it is, but it'll take Socialism to maintain it, IMHO.

Can't speak for Eastern Europe, never lived under a Communist regime myself

[Roman]

Re: if so then. .

Originally posted by connorkimbro
cool, i guess. not quite sure how to respond though. i didn't do anything.

i mean, i support you guys 100%, i'm completely opposed to communism and socialism in all it's many forms but. . well, heck, what did we really do? it was a coup in russia that did it. communism did itself in and all.

Sure, you did not overthrow Communism directly, but you sure helped undermine its rule by all possible means. Not least by giving us information about the true state that the "East" was in and the "West" was in, thus enabling us to make a comparison. Then you provided us with moral support when we finally got organised to overthrow Communism. You did many other positive things against Communism too.

[DinoDoc]

Ayn Rand doesn't have much of any signifigance to say in the way of ethics, connor.

[Roman]

Originally posted by orange
Communism is a nice theory, but can't be run by men in large societies.

Communism is way to impractical indeed. And there is the period of the dictatorship of the proletariat to go through...

Can't speak for Eastern Europe, never lived under a Communist regime myself

Lucky you, I hope nobody else has to either.

[Lancer]

You're welcome.

[Roman]

Originally posted by connorkimbro
heh, "selfless" is a communist ideal. (read Ayn Rand if you want to know what i mean, i don't feel like explaining it right now )

Communism has tried to ursup and monopolise the concept of selflessness, but this exists in all economic/political systems. In fact some capitalists (including me) would argue that welfare should rely exclusively on charity ie. selflessness, rather than socialist coercive system of income redistribution through taxes.

Capitalism has voluntary selflessness. Under Communism selflessness is coerced and does not work.

[knowhow2]

but it's cool that you are saying it though. at least one of you has some sense. the rest of europe it seems, are all bleeding heart liberals (liberal in the american sense).

yeah lets make George W Bush the KING of the world so he can drag us around and bombed everyone we don't like. Or better yet lets just go down on our knees and kiss the americans boots.

[Roman]

Re: Fellow Viet Namese-let's show our gratitude to the west by posting "F*** You"

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Cambodians, Laotians, Malayans, Timorese, Nicaraguans, Guatemalans, Cubans, Grenadans, Arabs, Jews, Maoris and Zulus are welcome too.

Maybe not then, but by now most of these peoples have realised the benefits of capitalism and would actually like to enjoy them too!