The Altera Centauri collection has been brought up to date by Darsnan. It comprises every decent scenario he's been able to find anywhere on the web, going back over 20 years.
25 themes/skins/styles are now available to members. Check the select drop-down at the bottom-left of each page.
Call To Power 2 Cradle 3+ mod in progress: https://apolyton.net/forum/other-games/call-to-power-2/ctp2-creation/9437883-making-cradle-3-fully-compatible-with-the-apolyton-edition
Originally posted by Ned
As to Hersh, I'd lock him up now and throw away the key. Either that, or shoot him now as an enemy of the United States.
Glad to see your love of the US showing. You are clearly a proud citizen of the Land of the Free
"I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
Originally posted by Ned
Ramo, Sy Hersh is the anti-American's best friend. He never fails in embarassing the United States and undermining its security. He is a real gem, the darling of the left and, particularly, of the French. He, more than any other journalist, truly deserves to be arrayed in the honors of those he has served so well. All Cheer Seymour Hersh. Wave the flags of North Vietnam, the Soviet Union, Cuba and now of al Qaeda and, most of all, of his hero, the falsely incarcerated, Saddam Hussein!
Who can be friends with a country that has maintained despots for decades, uses chemical weapons as a matter of course (alledgedly) and is anti-Islamic as a matter of course?
Well, us I guess. The rest of the world has a hard time with it.
What is happening is that America is going from Cold War "fire brigade" mentality to trying to achieve some lasting political systems.
It's a bit like a 100 metre sprinter training for the mile... the requirements are totally different.
Blaming Hersh for reporting what he sees is like burning people at the stake for saying the earth goes around the sun.
It's also interesting to note that he's castigating the "civilians in the White House", so presumably the uniformed personnel are the ones feeding him the info.
With your background Ned, maybe you should think about that last point the most... do a soldier's loyalties lie with the elected politicians or the people who put those politicians there?
Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
"The CIA does nothing, says nothing, allows nothing, unless its own interests are served. They are the biggest assembly of liars and theives this country ever put under one roof and they are an abomination" Deputy COS (Intel) US Army 1981-84
Blaming Hersh for reporting what he sees is like burning people at the stake for saying the earth goes around the sun.
It's also interesting to note that he's castigating the "civilians in the White House", so presumably the uniformed personnel are the ones feeding him the info.
Yep, I think the Pentagon is getting sick and tired what civilians are doing to them. They know what's going on and know they aren't doing the right thing.
do a soldier's loyalties lie with the elected politicians or the people who put those politicians there?
Quote material.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
What diplomatic capital do you think this adminstration has left? As usual, you're delusional to think that the "whole world" will stop trading with Iran. Not only will Russia and China likely refuse to go along, but I rather strongly suspect much of "the West" will also. I wonder, why would they be reluctant to back us up? Hmm....
Seems to me the last time we went the UN about WMDs in a Middle-Eastern nation and requested action, there was little political will in the world, including our allies, to take military action. Then we ignored that, did it anyway, and lo & behold THEY WERE RIGHT - no WMDs, and futhermore a helluva mess to deal with. So what, exactly, would make any of the nations that disagree with us last time do otherwise w/regard to Iran?
Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I love how people ***** about the need for better intelligence and then ***** when they get it...
Word
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
Cruddy, supporting Dictators? Like Saddam and Mullah Omar? You have today's America completely backassward; and you know it. The world knows it. It is only the radical left that continues to spread the lies that liberation of Afghanistan and Iraq are not about liberty, but about OIL and American Imperialism. You guys who keep saying this nonsense must be having a hard time saying this crap with a straight face. Even the most committed of the lunatic fringe left must know that what they are saying is pure BS.
The US being against Islam? You really have never heard George Bush speak, have you. All you do is repeat your propaganda endlessly until you think that everybody believes you.
This constant lying and propaganda from the left is just a bit much, don't you think?
Actually, that's ONE alternative to UN sanctions. The others are:
1) Nothing at all.
2) Diplomacy (attempting to convince the Iranians that we will make it worth their while to give up nukes).
Option 1, of course, means they get nukes if they want 'em.
Option 2 has a rather low likelyhood of success at this point, particularly if it's the Bush administration doing the "diplomacy."
Frankly, I don't give a damn. The worry is that Iran would get nukes and give them to some terror organization. The idea that Iran would directly attack us with nukes is absurd. So that leaves Hezbolla or some other similar group. That is a danger, although I rank it lower than you do, I think.
The question, for me, is this:
Does blocking Iran from getting nukes - and all that that entails (diplomacy, sanctions, war - whatever) increase or decrease our security?
On the one hand, if our efforts are successful, we block a hostile regime from getting nukes and thus shut down one possible pathway through which terrorists could get them. One the other hand, however, our efforts are likely to do two things:
1) stir up yet more anger & hatred against us; and
2) make other regimes even more determined to get nukes and fast - because once you've got them, you're safe from us. In fact, it is the only thing that makes you safe from us. Otherwise, you can find yourself on a list of "outposts of tyranny" and expect the USAF to pay you a visit.
Me, I think we should leave Iran the hell alone. And if you think that's traitorous or something, you can kiss my hairy liberal ass.
Ok, we sanction Russia for trading with Iran. They'll stop.
Great idea!
Then we can recreate the financial panic of 1998!
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
Originally posted by Ned
I am sure you would have done the same to any Frenchman who leaked covert operations underway in the Third Reich before 1939.
I wouldn't have criticized journalists for doing so. If anything, I would have demanded the military to clean-up the officers who can't hold a secret. And I'm from a population of "haters", as you yourself put it.
BTW, I support the Frenchmen who actively undermined our efforts during the Algeria war, and actively aided the Algerian independantists. These people were and still are heroes
"I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis
Originally posted by Arrian
Does blocking Iran from getting nukes - and all that that entails (diplomacy, sanctions, war - whatever) increase or decrease our security?
On the one hand, if our efforts are successful, we block a hostile regime from getting nukes and thus shut down one possible pathway through which terrorists could get them. One the other hand, however, our efforts are likely to do two things:
1) stir up yet more anger & hatred against us; and
2) make other regimes even more determined to get nukes and fast - because once you've got them, you're safe from us. In fact, it is the only thing that makes you safe from us. Otherwise, you can find yourself on a list of "outposts of tyranny" and expect the USAF to pay you a visit.
Me, I think we should leave Iran the hell alone. And if you think that's traitorous or something, you can kiss my hairy liberal ass.
-Arrian
In reality I tend to have the same view as I did back at pre-Iraq and mirror man yuor your comments Arrian.
This however does not mean in any way we shouldn't be spying our asses off in Iran to more completely understand the nature of Iran's intentions. To that end lets up the spy dollars for more human intel.
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
Tweet
Comment